Fool proof saw?

[StihlEchoingHusky]

I've got a buddy who has started a firewood business with a friend of his. (Ya. It's a I know a guy who knows a guy kind of situation lol) Anyways my buddy is a little hard of hearing. So picking up on a leak would be a bit challenging for him. But that being said I would love to get him a new saw. I'm thinking cs590 would be a good choice. What is y'all's opinion on the subject. This firewood business has grown enough that he is literally cutting and splitting all day long. So the saw would be seeing commercial use, in terms of run time!

 

[huskihl]

Not a bad idea. 620 runs a little bit better. Not sure if it’s worth the extra change

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Every Echo saw I have ever owned, has had really good manners. Open the exhaust and defeat the mixture screw limiters.

 

[EFSM]

I recently had a customer with only a 261 come buy a 620 with a 28” bar after seeing how well his buddy’s *stock* 590 handled a 28”. I wouldn’t run a 28” on either saw, but they are tough bricks, although you can eventually tear the intake boot if you yank the saw out of binds with all your might.
But they don’t put hair on your chest like a 400 or 564, so that’s another factor.

 

[StihlEchoingHusky]

Not a bad idea. 620 runs a little bit better. Not sure if it’s worth the extra change

I've thought about that but doesn't the hda 268 have that anti lean protection? I know there's a limited coil.

I recently had a customer with only a 261 come buy a 620 with a 28” bar after seeing how well his buddy’s *stock* 590 handled a 28”. I wouldn’t run a 28” on either saw, but they are tough bricks, although you can eventually tear the intake boot if you yank the saw out of binds with all your might.
But they don’t put hair on your chest like a 400 or 564, so that’s another factor.

564.... I know people have mentioned this before but im Kinda of bummed out they didnt make it the same cc class as the 500i. But I say that only for comparison. It would have been cool to see the first two injected go head to head and see who came out on top. Interms of power and durability. But I am still going to get one!! Lol

 

[EFSM]

I've thought about that but doesn't the hda 268 have that anti lean protection? I know there's a limited coil.

Comparing the 590 to 620, the 620 has a rim sprocket, aluminum side cover w/ captive nuts, dual felling spikes, unlimited coil, metal wrap handle, and roughly 20% more power, due to significantly higher exhaust and transfers. Both use a bypass jet in the nozzle, which is usually not an issue unless you modify them.

 

[IffykidMn]

Comparing the 590 to 620, the 620 has a rim sprocket, aluminum side cover w/ captive nuts, dual felling spikes, unlimited coil, metal wrap handle, and roughly 20% more power, due to significantly higher exhaust and transfers. Both use a bypass jet in the nozzle, which is usually not an issue unless you modify them.

Not a bad idea. 620 runs a little bit better. Not sure if it’s worth the extra change

Value would partially depend on intent of new saw
New saw just for the sake of a new saw, what is he running now.
Up production or cut the same amount in less time, ROI
Depth of pockets.

Hypothetical ROI numbers $400 saw vs $800 saw.
600 cords a year with a 1% gain in production would be 6 cords at $125 per cord net gain $750

 

[IffykidMn]

Value would partially depend on intent of new saw
New saw just for the sake of a new saw, what is he running now.
Up production or cut the same amount in less time, ROI
Depth of pockets.

Hypothetical ROI numbers $400 saw vs $800 saw.
600 cords a year with a 1% gain in production would be 6 cords at $125 per cord net gain $750

Spending other people's money is fun.

590 13.2lbs $440
620 13.9lbs $740
462 13.2lbs $1300

I wonder if there is another 1% gain($750) to be had running a 462?

 

[StihlEchoingHusky]

Spending other people's money is fun.

But.... it's not as fun as actually reaping the benefits of said money lol.

590 13.2lbs $440
620 13.9lbs $740
462 13.2lbs $1300

I wonder if there is another 1% gain($750) to be had running a 462?

Well if I was spending that much I would more than likely go with a near new condition 440. Because If I'm buying a 462 I'm keeping it

 

[RichE23ACR]

A CS-620P(W) is hard to beat as a firewood saw. I've had one for a few years now & am glad that I spent the extra over a CS-590. As many have said, these saws truly wake- up as they break in! Mine has a 24"bar & it runs strong buried in oak/hardwood with a full chisel chain. It would be cool to have a MS400 or a fuelie 564, however their premium prices do not make sense for my use.

 

[Seachaser]

Depends on the size of wood. Personally, put me in the big saw, long bar camp. The best bang for the buck, to me, is the Husky 572 or 372 with a 32” bar. And this is coming from a guy with a 500i.

 

[Woodtroll]

Hard to beat a 590 for value for the dollar. Note I did not say it is "the best" saw for any particular thing, but for many folks' needs it can certainly be the best value.

And no saw is fool-proof. We see examples of that here every day, in the "what's on your bench" and similar threads. LOL. It amazes me what some folks can do to a good saw.

 

[59billy]

A CS-620P(W) is hard to beat as a firewood saw. I've had one for a few years now & am glad that I spent the extra over a CS-590. As many have said, these saws truly wake- up as they break in! Mine has a 24"bar & it runs strong buried in oak/hardwood with a full chisel chain. It would be cool to have a MS400 or a fuelie 564, however their premium prices do not make sense for my use.

If I was starting over from scratch I'd probably get a CS-620PW. It's actually one of the few current production saws that interest me.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I run both a 590 and a 620pw. The 590 is standard issue, everyone should have one. Its the greatest budget saw of all time!

Very easy saw to get feisty out of the box with a half ah minute of free work:

Base gasket delete yields 170 psi.
Muffler mod
$4 walbro fuel nozzle 86-578
.015 off fly where key.

As configured they tune out 13'100 rpms and will make money all day, everyday for YEARS.

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Yep my 620pw cuts a little faster with the aggressive port timing. But I would never be without my mighty 590 underdog.

No they dont need a bigger carb, a different air filter, or a 620 coil. Any of that bllsht would be a waste of money.






Cool to watch them timberwolf saws being put together:

 

[EFSM]

If I was starting over from scratch I'd probably get a CS-620PW. It's actually one of the few current production saws that interest me.

It would be nice if someone would offer a quality big bore kit for them. The crankcase and crankshaft could handle a lot more power, due to steel inserts around the crank bearings.

 

[Outback]

If he has a firewood business already, then he already has a saw or saws. What saw is he cutting with now? What ever saw he has, he needs the opposite, size wise.