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Should the auction be modified to allow the highest bid to be seen?


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Ran the saw today with a different tachometer, a PET 304 and it was cutting at around 10,500 and 11,000 RPM in the wood. Best I could tell it was free revving at 14,400 RPM. Of course, that's pretty much like GTG speed, I'd run it fatter for working it.

 

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Was going to do this yesterday when @Woodrow was here, however the saw flooded out and we were not able to.
The inlet needle turned out to be the culprit, having a slight manufacturing defect on the side of it. If you look at the picture, you can see the spot where the blooper is. I rummaged through my carburetor goodies and had some new ones from kits with multiple parts for different carbs that I had saved for just such an occasion. Along with a level and pressure test, it cured it of hanging up alright.
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Seeing as John used to hang with the crew over at Sawhawgz, I figured I would see if I could let them know about this saw as they do have a thread on it at super990.com click on it here - https://super990.com/index.php?threads/nixons-saws.182/
Unfortunately, the approval process is taking much longer than I had anticipated, so if there is/are any members here that can post over there, could please let them know about this offering, would be greatly appreciated as to A, help fulfil Janelle's wish of someone that knew John to get the saw and B, my wish to get the most money possible for her.
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Also, please send me your bid, there's still room for new high bidders and you never know, it could be yours!
 

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Seeing as John used to hang with the crew over at Sawhawgz, I figured I would see if I could let them know about this saw as they do have a thread on it at super990.com click on it here - https://super990.com/index.php?threads/nixons-saws.182/
Unfortunately, the approval process is taking much longer than I had anticipated, so if there is/are any members here that can post over there, could please let them know about this offering, would be greatly appreciated as to A, help fulfil Janelle's wish of someone that knew John to get the saw and B, my wish to get the most money possible for her.
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Also, please send me your bid, there's still room for new high bidders and you never know, it could be yours!
Posted over at Super990!
 

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Might be beneficial to show everyone the bid price. Even in a silent auction (this is more like a blind auction), people can see the current bid and are free to bid higher and as often as they want. No one wants to waste their time sending in a $300 bid, then a $400 bid, and then a $500 bid if it is already at 600
 

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Might be beneficial to show everyone the bid price. Even in a silent auction (this is more like a blind auction), people can see the current bid and are free to bid higher and as often as they want. No one wants to waste their time sending in a $300 bid, then a $400 bid, and then a $500 bid if it is already at 600
I agree
 

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Might be beneficial to show everyone the bid price. Even in a silent auction (this is more like a blind auction), people can see the current bid and are free to bid higher and as often as they want. No one wants to waste their time sending in a $300 bid, then a $400 bid, and then a $500 bid if it is already at 600
On the contrary, if no one knows what the high bid is, they may bid higher than they would have if they can see the price..
 

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On the contrary, if no one knows what the high bid is, they may bid higher than they would have if they can see the price..
I guess we will agree to disagree then. I have spent my lifetime dealing with auctions and have a bit of experience albeit I guess opinions on them.
 

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After sleeping on this, I decided to put up a poll and let all of you decide how this will go. As I am having difficulty changing this in mid-stream and the possibility of starting an internet chit-show of epic proportion.
So, if we can get a unanimous decision, the auction will change to see the high bids. If not, will remain as it started.
I'll give it through the weekend.
 

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After sleeping on this, I decided to put up a poll and let all of you decide how this will go. As I am having difficulty changing this in mid-stream and the possibility of starting an internet chit-show of epic proportion.
So, if we can get a unanimous decision, the auction will change to see the high bids. If not, will remain as it started.
I'll give it through the weekend.
I like your thought here Steve.
 

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I would leave it as is. If no one knows the high bid and ,they only have one chance, they will bid higher.
 

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Well, that didn't take long. Let's call this idea a wrap and let's work on getting those high bids in instead. I look forward to seeing all of yours.
It's simple, bid the maximum amount you able/want to for a chance at yours being higher than everyone else.

NOTE 1: This auction was never about trying to get someone the lowest price possible on this saw, quite the opposite in fact, the highest price possible for Janelle.

NOTE 2: This may or may not prove to be the best vehicle going forward to achieve our goals, however, it is the vehicle we find ourselves in, so let's put our best face on and make the best of it by spreading the word, this will help immensely.

NOTE 3: I've been running this saw off and on since its completion and it's been starting/running/oiling like a million bucks. I decided since there was time and after the inlet needle snafu in the carbatater, that vetting it out some more would be in order.
I honestly wish I could bid on this saw myself, as the more I mess around with it the more I like it, I truly do.
 

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After sleeping on this, I decided to put up a poll and let all of you decide how this will go. As I am having difficulty changing this in mid-stream and the possibility of starting an internet chit-show of epic proportion.
So, if we can get a unanimous decision, the auction will change to see the high bids. If not, will remain as it started.
I'll give it through the weekend.
I doubt it will come to a shït show regardless Steve. Thanks for putting this on.
 

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Well, that didn't take long. Let's call this idea a wrap and let's work on getting those high bids in instead. I look forward to seeing all of yours.
It's simple, bid the maximum amount you able/want to for a chance at yours being higher than everyone else.

NOTE 1: This auction was never about trying to get someone the lowest price possible on this saw, quite the opposite in fact, the highest price possible for Janelle.

NOTE 2: This may or may not prove to be the best vehicle going forward to achieve our goals, however, it is the vehicle we find ourselves in, so let's put our best face on and make the best of it by spreading the word, this will help immensely.

NOTE 3: I've been running this saw off and on since its completion and it's been starting/running/oiling like a million bucks. I decided since there was time and after the inlet needle snafu in the carbatater, that vetting it out some more would be in order.
I honestly wish I could bid on this saw myself, as the more I mess around with it the more I like it, I truly do.

Being a saw builder is a lot like being a drug dealer - It's not a good idea to sample too much of your own product.
 

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Being a saw builder is a lot like being a drug dealer - It's not a good idea to sample too much of your own product.
You got that right, not only do I want to keep them all, it also dulls the senses after a while. Case in point, was talking with a fellow some while ago about a certain model or another can't remember exactly, anyway, I said "it runs okay", he says, "just okay?" I'm like "yeah, okay". He says to me "do you watch your own videos?" Lol
 

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Not that any of this applies to this exact situation and not that anyone gives a chit but I will provide some real life examples of sales privately, sealed bids, and auctions

#1 In 1996 my wife's family wanted to sell a farm to pay a debt her POS uncle had incurred failing at farming. They listed it for $2700/acre with a relator and had no offers. They held it for a year or two and then just decided to put it up for public auction. It sold for $4700/acre.

#2 In 2000 we were the high bidder at a public auction on an old farmhouse and buildings. My bid was $35,000 and the owner would not sell it. He later sold it after the auction for far less privately.

#3. In 2006 we bought a home for $35,000 privately. It then sold for $64,500. Had it went to auction originally it would have been over $35,000

#4 In 2007 at a public auction I was the backup bidder on a tri-plex. I was in at $34,000 and a realtor's son was at $35,000. He went nuts dumping the banks money into it and found out he was screwed. He then tried selling it privately and lost his arse.

#5 In 2009 at a public auction we were the backup bidders on a home. Our bid was $23,000. A gentleman bid $24,000 and I chuckled as I knew we were a bit over at $23,000. He then listed it with a realtor for $32,000. He ended up taking less than his bid price.

#6 In 2010 there was 155 acres of bottom ground that came up for public auction. It was against the levee and needed serious tile work. They held the auction at the town hall. Dad was sitting next to a neighbor. As with all auctions the auctioneer starts high and drops. Well, he dropped the bid to $1600/acre. The neighbor raises his hand. No one bids. In normal land auctions they take three breaks to allow folks to think. During the first break the neighbor looks over at Dad and says, "do you think I bid too soon". Dad says "yep" After two more breaks no one had bid, and the neighbor owned it.

#7 For decades I watched as my wife's POS uncle pissed away everything his father, uncle, and aunts created through hard work farming. It was sad. I watched as it was sold off 160 acres, 120 acres, 40 acres, and 30 acres at a time. In every single case it sold higher at public auction than it was listed for privately. In the end all that was left was a 6-bedroom home, buildings, and a few acres. I remember the final auction of the house, buildings, and bins. It included the front 30 acres. I will never forget that cold arse day as my wife looked at me crying as the bids were placed. She just wanted the house, and I wanted it for her. I just was not in a place to buy it. I was certain the guy who bought it would doze the home. To my amazement he did not. He rented it but I knew he had no interest in keeping it. He is a huge farmer here, what we call a CBF...corn, beans, and Florida farmer. I watched the home for activity and without my wife or anyone in her family knowing I kept in contact with the owner. This went on a good number of years. Friday March 25, 2016, I saw a survey crew there, so I knew it was time. I phoned Jim that night. He said he was going to sell it and had an unofficial offer of $75,000 but the guy had not been in touch lately. At that point I should have just said let’s call it a done deal, but I did not. I told him I would need to check with my wife, and I would phone him Saturday evening. I checked with my wife, and she was thrilled. As I said I would I called Jim Saturday evening, and he gave me a total line of BS. He claimed after no contact, out of the blue, the original person contacted him Saturday morning. The owner now wanted each of us to submit sealed bids through his attorney. We went over to the attorney’s office and sat in the parking lot a bit deciding how much to bid. I said it must be a wacky number, so we settled at $97,300. When I was writing up the bid, I mistakenly wrote $97,200. When we left my wife said, “I will castrate you if we lose that for $100” Well I figured we had been played and there never was another bidder. When I phoned the attorney, a few days later asking if we got it, he let out a big ole belly laugh and said, “oh yeah you got it alright”. Yeah, we had been played.

#8 In January 2023 one of my sons texted me a link to a home and set of buildings that was listed online through Zillow. It was a big 5-bedroom farmhouse and listed at $65,000 with a realtor. They would not be any showings. There was a 2-hour open house on a Saturday from 11AM-1PM. All offers had to be free of contingency and were due at 1PM. I tried explaining to him that the $65,000 price was a "teaser” and they were fishing for better offers. It sold for over $65,000 but much less than it would at a public auction. I believe the highest offer was around $125,000. Had it gone to a public auction it would have gone higher

#9 In May 2024 my son again texts me a listing for a home on a few acres. It was listed with a realtor. There were to be no showings, no open houses, no nothing. I called the listing agent. She just said that it was sold based on what you see from a drive-by. I do not remember the exact asking price as her attitude turned me away. I think it was around $120,00 Had it gone to a public auction it might have brought close to what they asked and possibly more.

#10 Now this one might turn out to be the craziest one yet. Currently I am trying to help one of my sons buy a house and buildings on a very small farm. It sits on 28 acres of very rough pasture. There is a decent garage, 40x60 shed, and an old barn. I have never been in the house, but I put hay up in the barn and it needs work. It was a horse guy’s place, and he passed away years ago. His widow kept horses for a while but tragically she was killed along with her neighbor in a bad car wreck. I kept watch on the place and asked around a bit. Back in early May I started hearing rumors it might get auctioned. I called one local auctioneer, and he was not aware of it, I phoned two more and left generic messages but never heard back. I then called what I figured would be the least likely auctioneer and realtor to get the sale. It turns out he was in negotiations to get it. I stressed to him that I felt the most fair and honest way was a live on-site auction. He agreed but he said the heirs were pushing for a realtor listing. He is also a realtor. He said they were planning an on-site auction of the personal property for August 17 which of course is today. After that it would be listed. As time went by, I did not see any activity there. Last week it was obvious there was not going to be an auction today. I phoned him one week ago today asking what was going on. He gave the politically correct answer (excuse) that they thought having it today would interfere with the rodeo. The auction would be over by 1PM and the rodeo is 40 miles away at 7PM. The truth is he did not get his ducks in a row! He says now they are going to sell the personal property either September 21st or 28th. Here is where I just started shaking my head in disbelief. After that the house and land will be listed through his realty office. They will select 5 offers, might not be the 5 highest, and then put everyone in a circle and allow them to raise their offer. Folks that might be the dumbest concept I have seen. In a sense it is an auction of some sort, but it will be so damn weird it is hard to grasp. It is turning into a total chit show.
 
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