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Dave has been through a pretty serious set of events in the last 4 years that set him back pretty good. I hadn’t heard about the back problems. He didn’t need that. I hope he pulls through this whole ordeal in flying colors. I’ve never met a more giving member
 

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I've never dealt with the outfit/gentleman in question, but if he's a businessman he should have been able to at least reply to email inquiries about outstanding transactions. He was able to fight a refund attempt from the bank, but not converse with the buyer, who paid extra for expedited shipping? That seems strange to me, and the buyer should get a full refund on the shipping, which obviously was money wasted. If he paid for expedited shipping he was needing the part in a hurry. I'd be put out too, given how the whole situation has played out. For Pete's sake, just take a minute to talk to/email the buyer.

I once ordered a custom holster from a vendor on a firearms board who was considered a fine, upstanding guy by all the members on the board who had had good dealings with him. Then he fell into bad times, his wife had health problems, and he was spending all his incoming order money on health care, while still taking new orders, but never making any holsters. This didn't come out for several months as more and more people became concerned about their unfilled, paid-for orders. Bottom line, a whole bunch of us never got our holsters, never received any explanation from the seller, and he basically disappeared into thin air with thousands of other folks' money. I understand healt care is expensive, and initially he may have intended to make it good eventually, but by continuing to take new orders he was just flat out stealing.
 
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Dave has been through a pretty serious set of events in the last 4 years that set him back pretty good. I hadn’t heard about the back problems. He didn’t need that. I hope he pulls through this whole ordeal in flying colors. I’ve never met a more giving member
I didn’t realize he had been having issues last few years, he’s definitely a great individual and I was glad to meet him at your g2g. I’ve had dealings with him on parts and always had gone well. Also remember many occasions where he made parts donations to help others who had issues ect and needed parts even though he had no part in the dealings. Also remember him having his own problems with a certain individual and getting taken on stuff himself so he knows what it’s like and I never would see him putting anyone through that.
 

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If yer unable to do business or provide customer suppport in a timely manner due to health issues or lack of employees, pause sales until yer able to responsibly handle people's money.

Simple.
Easy said when your health is ok, not so easy when your in agony, two three sales agreed then bam, your world is upside down.
 

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When Dave got clobbered with a Big Jolt in life, No body heard a whimper from him He SIMPLY closed the CCC website and faded away. this was before ?2020?
Members trying to spin bad vibes don't know the man. There was NOT a complaint, a mention of a deal gone bad, not even a good bye from him. I think he went about taking down most of his posts.. JUST A BIG VOID was present.
I have no idea of the volume his small business turned over but I know I spent more than a thousand with him and that was for the quality and price he had. HE BACKED UP HIS PRODUCT with what ever it took to make it right.
Some comments inferred he was crooked or wrote a parable of the scenario that ended with Stealing.
I will submit a true Parable I have been through. Kirt a bachelor friend of mine was on his way to work. 10 minutes rom home 20 minutes from work, 5:30 AM, all country but hiway driving He had a wreck. He was in an induced coma for more than a month intensive care for 3 more months. Never remembered anything for 6 months and5 years after the wreck he is still trying to piece some (Most) of the hospital time together.
His Sister took over his banking and finances (I believe she did a great job Kirt has his frustrated moments on it) His mother (79 at the time) took care of his 2 yr old Lab. We all put together a big benefit hog cook and auction that netted 24,000$ that we nearly had to beat his noggin in to get him to accept it. Kirt uses a cell phone. No Passwords or websites and is far more tech challenged than me.
NO ONE thought he was trying to Scam us
Flat on his back with surgery after surgery visitors came and went with no acknowledgement for several months Eveen a worried wife that was involved with this business would be overwhelmed with the stress not to mention the computer passwords, banking, Pay Pal transaction left hanging in Limbo, and ongoing expenses complicated with medical issues. All this and Maybe Dave is flat on his Back.. I will end this PARABLE with there couldn't be a hint of malfeasance on Dave's part . and to have the language of scam and steal sets very wrong with me.
HELL when Masterminds grand son got his finger buggered up they put up a whopper of a benefit for him,
Where was the one for RAY BENSON when his hand got bit by a chainsaw? Ray is a huge donor of his knowledge and archives he draws from for our manuals. (Thanks again RAY). Imagine what this site would be without Ray and other members diligently manage.
AS Many benefits Dave has been involved in where is a notion of one for him?
Many Know Dave well and still miss him but understand the Whys.
I got a DM from a member as I am sure many of the "COMMUNITY" received asking where do we go from here and any input as to what would be beneficial for this forum. well somewhere in this thread are some viable clues of this sites decline.
If some of the new members here haven't noticed Dave's past is present all over this site and has many friends still Here. I believe we should expect an explanation (For Gossips sake) and be prudent about getting all of the details prior to casting judgement.
 

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I think it ought to be locked down or dumped. There's no way this doesn't get fixed. The timing is the only issue. But what do I know? I can tell you this, I can't begin to look at my chainsaw sh!t without seeing dozens of things Dave gave to me absolutely free. He is the most generous person to ever set foot on my property. I might add that I can't provide anything to him in return. That being the case, says all that needs saying...
This thread has touched a lot of nerves. That's not a bad thing. I just want to ask everybody to keep it civil.
 
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I think it ought to be locked down or dumped. There's no way this doesn't get fixed. The timing is the only issue. But what do I know? I can tell you this, I can't begin to look at my chainsaw sh!t without seeing dozens of things Dave gave me for free. He is the most generous person to ever set foot on my property.
The only part I will ask to be added Is of the Original Poster to request/modify to change the title/header.
AND IF circumstances warrant bring it back to be addressed then. I for one will suggest a donation to be organized for reimbursement on these members purchases. I cannot be helpful in managing but will be one of the first to donate
Maybe we can get DD to start participating here on OPE again.
I for one miss his "PRECIOUS" avatar.
 

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Well, something has been set in motion as I just got shipment and tracking info on my piston! To be clear here, I‘d be glad to donate if anyone sets up a fundraiser for Dave as I heard nothing but good things about him.
 

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Well, something has been set in motion as I just got shipment and tracking info on my piston! To be clear here, I‘d be glad to donate if anyone sets up a fundraiser for Dave as I heard nothing but good things about him.

That's great news. I think it will be appropriate to delete this thread when the time comes.

It should be noted that Dave is one of the "founding fathers" of the modern chainsaw community on the interwebs as @huskihl mentioned.
 
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