Bars too big for a saw

[Wilhelm]

Run your ported saw Wilhelm!!!

Most will disagree, but ported saws tend to run high rpm, high rpm/chain speed is severely counterproductive in hardwoods.
Well, at least that's my take on it and also a reason why I do not run 8 tooth sprockets on my worksaws.

He needs to have his ported. It sucks he's so far away.

He has one!

As a matter of fact, I own TWO ported saws!
Makita EA5000 XS ported - THANK YOU KEVIN @huskihl , SONDRE @SOS Ridgerider & STEVE @166
Dolmar PS-6100 MMWS ported - thank You Dan @AlfA01

Yeah just one, that's weak sauce. He needs the big dawg ported

I don't want the big dawg ported, above all I appreciate bulletproof reliability.
Not to say a well ported saw will not last, but it may be more susceptible to imperfect carb tune and I do not retune my saws every time I use them.

 

[Deets066]

Most will disagree, but ported saws tend to run high rpm, high rpm/chain speed is severely counterproductive in hardwoods.

So... a ported saw won’t cut as good as a stock saw? In hardwood.

 

[Wilhelm]

So... a ported saw won’t cut as good as a stock saw? In hardwood.

I have a feeling You stopped reading after "ported", or my writing did not come over as I thought it would.
High chain speed can cause chain slippage in dense hard woods is all I wanted to say.

I don't crave ported chainsaws for what I need my chainsaws for.
Let's just leave it at that and agree to disagree regarding the topic.

Cheers

 

[Deets066]

I have a feeling You stopped reading after "ported", or my writing did not come over as I thought it would.
High chain speed can cause chain slippage in dense hard woods is all I wanted to say.

I don't crave ported chainsaws for what I need my chainsaws for.
Let's just leave it at that and agree to disagree regarding the topic.

Cheers

I read all of it, tuning the carb more frequently is definitely part of it.
But necessary when running a more efficient engine.

 

[RI Chevy]

I guess the wood I cut here in the Northeast isn't really hard wood. You're awfully short today Wilhelm. Adjust your chain to the saw and wood you're cutting. You'll be amazed. Be open minded.

 

[Wilhelm]

I own:
- over a dozen saws, small, mid, large, stock, ported
- over two dozen various bars
- about three dozen various chains and keep adding

How am I not open minded to new things to try?
FFS, I am running .325" RS on my PS-9010 and prefer it over 3/8" RS.

Compared to turkey oak, which I buck for firewood, beech and "regular" European oak are speedwood.
Locust is "hard", but not nearly as dense as turkey oak.
Any conifer species is like cutting a sponge.

I will with enthusiasm try new things, but I will not revert to things that did not work for me!

Am I truly alone with my stand that ported and ever so seemingly faster saws aren't always better for the intended purpose?
Fine with me, I don't like crowds anyway.

 

[Deets066]

Engineers......


Lol

 

[huskyboy]

I own:
- over a dozen saws, small, mid, large, stock, ported
- over two dozen various bars
- about three dozen various chai

How am I not open minded to new things to try?
FFS, I am running .325" RS on my PS-9010 and prefer it over 3/8" RS.

Compared to turkey oak, which I buck for firewood, beech and "regular" European oak are speedwood.
Locust is "hard", but not nearly as dense as turkey oak.
Any conifer species is like cutting a sponge.

I will with enthusiasm try new things, but I will not revert to things that did not work for me!

Am I truly alone with my stand that ported and ever so seemingly faster saws aren't always better for the intended purpose?
Fine with me, I don't like crowds anyway.

Some guys overport the saw and kill the torque below 9000rpm. There fast as hell at hi rpm in the cut but pull it down to 8-9k and it’s got no power there. You can port saws for rpm or torque is what I’m getting at I guess. You can also keep the compression to a reasonable level where it won’t run hot and so you don’t have to constantly tune it. There are certain saw models I’m fine with just a muffler mod. 572 and 7900 come to mind... they run just fine for what I do with a muffler mod. You can always improve anything but sometimes it’s good enough for what your using it for.

 

[dgb84]

You guys are extra argumentative on this post. If this were a 90s soap opera, it’d be “gays of our lives”.

 

[RI Chevy]

Go cut some wood. LOL

 

[RI Chevy]

I guess the wood I cut here in the Northeast isn't really hard wood. You're awfully short today Wilhelm. Adjust your chain to the saw and wood you're cutting. You'll be amazed. Be open minded.

All I mentioned was you need to tune your chain to your saw. If you have more power do to running a ported saw, go a bit more aggressive with your chain. Pretty simple. You'll most likely cut faster. Just keep doing what your doing. I'll keep doing what I do.
All is good.
I was just trying to help. Not criticize. ‍‍‍

 

[dgb84]

I actually did fall a few dead trees on dads place today. I had my rakers set too high on a chain I’d sharpened, so I was a little disappointed with it. I was really disappointed with it after the last dead tree had about 3 or 4 strands of barbed wire that I cut through in it . I was just walking around on the place without an extra chain, so that was the end of my work for today.

 

[Wilhelm]

All I mentioned was you need to tune your chain to your saw. If you have more power do to running a ported saw, go a bit more aggressive with your chain. Pretty simple. You'll most likely cut faster. Just keep doing what your doing. I'll keep doing what I do.
All is good.
I was just trying to help. Not criticize. ‍‍‍

I have a 72DL loop or two for my mostly stock PS-7900 with the depth gauges set twice as low as recommended, it's fun but it is anything but forgiving from a safety aspect.

How fast can one make a bucking cut, and how much faster could be every next sharpened chain?
You guys are like drug addicts, constantly searching for a higher high!
I have my desired level of high, I merely look to keep it there.

As said so many times, we all have different preferences and opinions and that's what drives change and progress.
No harm done, no offense taken - we are merely discussing.
I may have been on the offensive side due to the fact that my winter vacation is over and I am not looking forward to go back to work.

Cheers

 

[Skeans1]

I have a 72DL loop or two for my mostly stock PS-7900 with the depth gauges set twice as low as recommended, it's fun but it is anything but forgiving from a safety aspect.

How fast can one make a bucking cut, and how much faster could be every next sharpened chain?
You guys are like drug addicts, constantly searching for a higher high!
I have my desired level of high, I merely look to keep it there.

As said so many times, we all have different preferences and opinions and that's what drives change and progress.
No harm done, no offense taken - we are merely discussing.
I may have been on the offensive side due to the fact that my winter vacation is over and I am not looking forward to go back to work.

Cheers

I think another way to put it is we’re looking for the consistency when actually cutting.


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[Deets066]

I think another way to put it is we’re looking for the consistency when actually cutting.


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Do any of you guys out west run a stock saw?

 

[Catbuster]

I ran stock saws when I worked out west (NW Oregon area) on fire and road building crews. Mostly 372 & 395 Husqvarnas, I have a not-quite-stock 046 I took on fire assignments because everybody runs 1128 series Stihl saws and parts were easy to find even within fire camp. On the same side of the coin, plenty of places will send you packing for running a modified saw for whatever reason, usually fire.

Now I’m back home looking at people and I always think people don’t have enough bar on their saw. A while back I went back home and the a lot of people were running 16” bars on their MS 440s. People look at me with confused expressions with 3/4 wraps and 28” being my shortest bar I run.

 

[Skeans1]

Do any of you guys out west run a stock saw?

I do, you have to watch who you’re cutting for most of the ground will not allow you to run a modified saw for fire reasons.


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[RI Chevy]

Just curious how they tell if your saw is ported?

 

[mettee]

Just curious how they tell if your saw is ported?

By all the rippin and snortin and the fact you spend half as much time cutting and get more done.

 

[Deets066]

By all the rippin and snortin and the fact you spend half as much time cutting and get more done.

Best answer.