A closer look at a new 565

[huskyboy]

You're referring to transfer stuffers, correct?

Crank stuffers

 

[Onan18]

Crank stuffers

 

[Wolverine]

I'm sure the 565 will be pretty impressive for a "landowner" class saw. Probably the highest performing saw we've seen in that class.

Exactly. Full mag, non XP sleeper.
These saws as new are wayyy out of my pay grade anyway.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I thought the 572 had a full circle crank??? Or am I mistaken? If that's the case, they are making a separate non full circle crank for the 565??

 

[huskyboy]

If that's the case, they are making a separate non full circle crank for the 565??

Yes, that is correct

 

[huskyboy]

I’m wondering if the cylinder is different on the 565 in any way vs 572.. maybe Bob can shed some light on this.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Yes, that is correct

Wow, I never would suspect they would go to the extra manufacturing trouble to de-tune an XP. I'm honestly surprised at that. Crank stuffers like the 357 had, transfer stuffers like the 365 has I'm sure are cheaper in comparison. Interesting...

 

[Funky sawman]

So is it true that the 572 has full circle crank? Im not talking add on stuffers like on 357, and 575 saws i mean alll steel full circle!

 

[CR888]

Many don't consider the non XP saws as they aren't considered the 'best' and the spec sheet numbers are not as good. But spec sheets tell you little about saw personality its something you get only by running the saw. I bought a 555 instead of a 562 and never once felt I made the wrong decision. In its own right the 555 is a great saw that lacks nothing. Actually the ability to run small mount bars suited my conditions as I would never put a bar longer than 20" on it anyhow. Usually ran 15"/18". The 565 should be build quality wise every bit a 'pro saw build' just makes its powa @less rpm's.

 

[Cut4fun]

So is it true that the 572 has full circle crank? Im not talking add on stuffers like on 357, and 575 saws i mean alll steel full circle!

Old pic I have saved. WAG = Appears added on.

 

[Adamski]

Many don't consider the non XP saws as they aren't considered the 'best' and the spec sheet numbers are not as good. But spec sheets tell you little about saw personality its something you get only by running the saw. I bought a 555 instead of a 562 and never once felt I made the wrong decision. In its own right the 555 is a great saw that lacks nothing. Actually the ability to run small mount bars suited my conditions as I would never put a bar longer than 20" on it anyhow. Usually ran 15"/18". The 565 should be build quality wise every bit a 'pro saw build' just makes its powa @less rpm's.

Agreed I have both a 365xt and a 545 (as of yesterday with this little one) 365xt still amazes me that it just keeps chugging.

 

[huskyboy]

Agreed I have both a 365xt and a 545 (as of yesterday with this little one) 365xt still amazes me that it just keeps chugging.

The xt have noticeably more grunt than the oe saws. Not necessarily faster, just a different feeling saw.

 

[Spike60]

I think husky said in there introduction video that 565 has no stuffers. Probably a lower rpm powerband is my guess.

That's correct Mason; no crank stuffers on the 565.

 

[Wolverine]

The xt have noticeably more grunt than the oe saws. Not necessarily faster, just a different feeling saw.

Yep. It's all what you want in a saw. In comparing the 57/59, in that class saw and what I use it for, I want max chain speed. I've been told by more than one builder thier best 59 will never beat their best 57. Stuffers and better cylinder design win. So if the 565/572 is more similar to these 2 saws by design, it may not be the saw for my taste.

 

[Spike60]

I’m wondering if the cylinder is different on the 565 in any way vs 572.. maybe Bob can shed some light on this.

Similar to what they did with the 555/562. Same piston and same cylinder casting. But the 565 transfer covers are a little bit shallower than the 572.

 

[Spike60]

Many don't consider the non XP saws as they aren't considered the 'best' and the spec sheet numbers are not as good. But spec sheets tell you little about saw personality its something you get only by running the saw. I bought a 555 instead of a 562 and never once felt I made the wrong decision. In its own right the 555 is a great saw that lacks nothing. Actually the ability to run small mount bars suited my conditions as I would never put a bar longer than 20" on it anyhow. Usually ran 15"/18". The 565 should be build quality wise every bit a 'pro saw build' just makes its powa @less rpm's.

That really sums it up pretty good. Most guys who run both the XP and non XP models on a common chassis say they don't feel much difference between them. I'm sure there's a "stop watch" difference, but when just working you don't notice that as much. These models are all sales flops. I have a handful of guys that buy 365's. We get some action on the 555 cause there's a big gap between the 460 and 562. I don't even stock the 545. Most of this is pricing. Some of it is the lack of an XP decal on the saw. IMO, there has to be a minimum of $100 separation for the junior model to get any attention at all.