372XPW vs 7900/10 vs ms460/1

[Miller Mod Saws]

And here's my favorite way to build them. This is a brand new saw and what I call a loggers port. They can be made much faster and stronger than this one is. But this saw has a great torque curve. Pretty rounded port shapes and my loggers love how it holds up. I also mod all the oilers on these new ones going to a logger. I just change the oil pump angle from 20 to 30 degrees. But all that said. My pic for a good everyday work saw.

 

[junkman]

And here's my favorite way to build them. This is a brand new saw and what I call a loggers port. They can be made much faster and stronger than this one is. But this saw has a great torque curve. Pretty rounded port shapes and my loggers love how it holds up. I also mod all the oilers on these new ones going to a logger. I just change the oil pump angle from 20 to 30 degrees. But all that said. My pic for a good everyday work saw.

I like slow saws for work .good job

 

[pro94lt]

The thing with the 372 7900 and 461 is they really are 3 extremely good saws. They All have their strengths and not many weaknesses. Some have to have spring av so they don't care for the 461, some hate the sponge feeling of a 7900, some don't like the 372 because it's a husqvarna. Lol. As good as these saws are it really comes to what feels good to to u.

 

[Wilhelm]

And here's my favorite way to build them. This is a brand new saw and what I call a loggers port. They can be made much faster and stronger than this one is. But this saw has a great torque curve. Pretty rounded port shapes and my loggers love how it holds up. I also mod all the oilers on these new ones going to a logger. I just change the oil pump angle from 20 to 30 degrees. But all that said. My pic for a good everyday work saw.

Red Makita?

I like the black stickers, love the saw.

 

[Miller Mod Saws]

Red Makita?

I like the black stickers, love the saw.

Yes sir.

 

[Deets066]

Yes sir.

I need to get with you about some parts for my 6421

 

[TreeLife]

Are there blue 6100's? I'm a sucker for blue things...

 

[MustangMike]

Stay away from the Mustang!!!!

 

[TreeLife]

@MustangMike I really like some mustangs!

 

[junkman]

 

[Deets066]

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Crush it

 

[TreeLife]

Mine is a mustang with a different body

 

[TreeLife]

Here is a 67 390 auto original mercury cougar

 

[Miller Mod Saws]

I need to get with you about some parts for my 6421

Ya got my number.

 

[Rob Stafari]

Are there blue 6100's? I'm a sucker for blue things...

Last time I was at Performance Outdoor Equipment @fordf150 still had a new one in blue, but it was the last one I like the blue too.

 

[fordf150]

Are there blue 6100's? I'm a sucker for blue things...

Still sitting on one

 

[Derf]

I'll throw in my chit to the conversation.

The 372XP (original) was a fine 70cc saw, the 372XPW did bump the displacement up to almost 75cc, but the transfer tunnels are much smaller. Consequently, it really needed port work to wake it up, and the quality of the port job can vary greatly. Some are fast reving cookie cutters, others have more torque to pull longer bars, some just aren't that good either. Randy has one tip for anyone doing these 372xpw's in his build thread to NOT hog out the transfer tunnels, and I guess he learned that doing so is a mistake. I'm sure there are all kinds of mistakes that can be made in porting that model saw. This is to say, the outcome of the port work can play a large role in this comparison, which is usually a ported 372xpw vs a ported 7900/7910.

I have a 372xpw that was ported by someone who carries a good reputation, and it has more power than my old 372xp, but noticeably only in larger wood with bigger bars. With a 20" bar I can't tell any difference. With a 24" bar in wood it really runs almost the same - it isn't until you lean on it, or have hard wood, or move to longer bars that you can appreciate those extra cc's of displacement. I have a 24" bar on my 372xpw, because I have smaller saws for shorter bars, and larger saws for longer bars. If I had fewer saws I might put a longer bar on the 372xpw. It could handle a 28", and if it were soft wood maybe it could pull/oil a 32", but I wouldn't push it past that.

The 7900/7910 has a slight displacement advantage over the 372xpw, but again, you're really only going to appreciate that in bigger/harder wood with longer bars. If you are putting a 28" bar on both saws and cutting big wood you might be able to appreciate that difference in displacement, but with a shorter bar in smaller wood you likely will not see much difference. On the other hand, if you are planning to use a 28" or 32" bar for big wood most of the time, perhaps a 70-79cc saw isn't what you should be looking at. Personally I'd be looking at a bigger powerhead.

I don't have much experience with the 046/460/461, but you can apply similar analogy there.

 

[TreeLife]

I'll throw in my chit to the conversation.

I have a 372xpw that was ported by someone who carries a good reputation, and it has more power than my old 372xp, but noticeably only in larger wood with bigger bars. With a 20" bar I can't tell any difference. With a 24" bar in wood it really runs almost the same - it isn't until you lean on it, or have hard wood, or move to longer bars that you can appreciate those extra cc's of displacement. I have a 24" bar on my 372xpw, because I have smaller saws for shorter bars, and larger saws for longer bars. If I had fewer saws I might put a longer bar on the 372xpw. It could handle a 28", and if it were soft wood maybe it could pull/oil a 32", but I wouldn't push it past that.

The 7900/7910 has a slight displacement advantage over the 372xpw, but again, you're really only going to appreciate that in bigger/harder wood with longer bars. If you are putting a 28" bar on both saws and cutting big wood you might be able to appreciate that difference in displacement, but with a shorter bar in smaller wood you likely will not see much difference. On the other hand, if you are planning to use a 28" or 32" bar for big wood most of the time, perhaps a 70-79cc saw isn't what you should be looking at. Personally I'd be looking at a bigger powerhead.

What you said about larger bars is absolutely true in my humble opinion. As I cut trees and buck logs for a living, the more I can put out per day means the more money I can make. I worked the saws that the business I work for has (which is a pretty broad range to be honest) and found they weren't enough for me. I decided to bring my 7910 to work one day and strapped a nice 28" sugihara bar with a full chisel chain.

Bucking big wood all day (generally over 24 inches and getting as large as 48 inches where I have been cutting) a capable saw is worth it's weight in gold.

I frankly always thought a 372 was a little down on power compared to other offerings on the market within its size range. Note, this is not me pissing on a husky. I love me some husky saws...but the ms460 to me always had it beat. It was as smooth as the husky with what seemed like more torque.

Going back to my 7910...it had all of them beat for torque and cutting speed. I also found replacing the mounts on the Dolmar to be easy and it looked like a good design from what I saw. I think a whole set of av mounts is like thirty bucks. A single mount on a stihl could cost me as much as I don't get preferential treatment at my stihl dealer and get deals. To be frank I just prefer oem parts for repair, but there just aren't many Dolmar dealers near me and parts can be an issue.

So I guess what I'm saying (from a guy who runs a saw for a living) is purchase what you can readily get service on, or buck up and run a more exotic saw like a Dolly and put up with having to order parts. Do I love my 7910? Yep. Would I rather have a different saw for what I do? Nope.

That stupid Dolmar literally makes my day. The way it cackles and roars all day, how much harder I can pull on the handle thru a log or how how much confidence I have in it while I'm bore cutting a big hardwood. I'm just a big fan of it!

There, I will get off my soap box!
Dominick

 

[mdavlee]

I'll throw in my chit to the conversation.

The 372XP (original) was a fine 70cc saw, the 372XPW did bump the displacement up to almost 75cc, but the transfer tunnels are much smaller. Consequently, it really needed port work to wake it up, and the quality of the port job can vary greatly. Some are fast reving cookie cutters, others have more torque to pull longer bars, some just aren't that good either. Randy has one tip for anyone doing these 372xpw's in his build thread to NOT hog out the transfer tunnels, and I guess he learned that doing so is a mistake. I'm sure there are all kinds of mistakes that can be made in porting that model saw. This is to say, the outcome of the port work can play a large role in this comparison, which is usually a ported 372xpw vs a ported 7900/7910.

I have a 372xpw that was ported by someone who carries a good reputation, and it has more power than my old 372xp, but noticeably only in larger wood with bigger bars. With a 20" bar I can't tell any difference. With a 24" bar in wood it really runs almost the same - it isn't until you lean on it, or have hard wood, or move to longer bars that you can appreciate those extra cc's of displacement. I have a 24" bar on my 372xpw, because I have smaller saws for shorter bars, and larger saws for longer bars. If I had fewer saws I might put a longer bar on the 372xpw. It could handle a 28", and if it were soft wood maybe it could pull/oil a 32", but I wouldn't push it past that.

The 7900/7910 has a slight displacement advantage over the 372xpw, but again, you're really only going to appreciate that in bigger/harder wood with longer bars. If you are putting a 28" bar on both saws and cutting big wood you might be able to appreciate that difference in displacement, but with a shorter bar in smaller wood you likely will not see much difference. On the other hand, if you are planning to use a 28" or 32" bar for big wood most of the time, perhaps a 70-79cc saw isn't what you should be looking at. Personally I'd be looking at a bigger powerhead.

I don't have much experience with the 046/460/461, but you can apply similar analogy there.

372xpw needs the tunnels opened up big time to run as good as possible. Did you end up with one of my 372xpw?

 

[Derf]

372xpw needs the tunnels opened up big time to run as good as possible. Did you end up with one of my 372xpw?

The transfer tunnels do need to be opened on the 75cc xpw, but do you taper them or hog them out all the way down? No, it wasn't your port work that I have on my saw.