Best Buy Co, Inc. Buy Used Saws CCC Ebay Store HLSupply Daily Deals

ms 461 woods port race thing

Discussion in 'Chainsaws' started by tree monkey, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    timed cuts and the torque I feel
     
  2. drf256

    drf256 Dr. Richard Cranium (“RC” to Muh pals)

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,265
    Likes Received:
    37,900
    Trophy Points:
    528
    Location:
    Strong Island NY
    Smart R&D. I love it.
     
  3. XP_Slinger

    XP_Slinger I like saws...sometimes

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2016
    Messages:
    4,237
    Likes Received:
    17,440
    Trophy Points:
    393
    Location:
    Central NY
    Very informative R&D. Once you figure out your individual port timing with the different pistons do you “feel” further gains once ports are widened with the new timing? Just curious. That Saw turned into an animal just by adjusting timing with the piston grinding. Great thread Scott
     
  4. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    I cut base and squish, widened ports, set port timing, advanced ign timing, muffler mod, some carb work was all done before test 1. from there I use the different pistons to find more gains one port at a time. how the saws feels tells me as much as the timed cuts. I want the saw to be pissed off, angry.
     
  5. angelo c

    angelo c Larger Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2015
    Messages:
    1,974
    Likes Received:
    7,570
    Trophy Points:
    368
    Location:
    Peoples Republic of North Jersey
    "Angry" Like a 15 yo when you take their phone away angry or just an average Monday morning with a wife and daughter "angry".. ?
     
  6. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    angry like you dropped that log on you foot
     
  7. drf256

    drf256 Dr. Richard Cranium (“RC” to Muh pals)

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,265
    Likes Received:
    37,900
    Trophy Points:
    528
    Location:
    Strong Island NY
    Very Intelligent choices Scott. Always been impressed by your work. R&D at its best.

    A smart no frills approach to what will gain and what wont.

    I'm gonna have to follow your lead on this one.

    How did you carve the piston reliefs? By hand, or on a Mill?
     
  8. paragonbuilder

    paragonbuilder Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Messages:
    9,107
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    501
    Location:
    Norwich, CT
    In case you missed his pics Doc
    [​IMG]
     
  9. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    I did them by hand. would need a turn table/ index to do them on a mill
     
    ferris, mdavlee, XP_Slinger and 3 others like this.
  10. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    DSC01221.JPG

    what is this telling me?
     
    smokey7, Moparmyway, mdavlee and 3 others like this.
  11. hseII

    hseII AKA - Kim's Husband

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,479
    Likes Received:
    18,298
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Location:
    West Georgia
    [​IMG]

    Potato
     
  12. hseII

    hseII AKA - Kim's Husband

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,479
    Likes Received:
    18,298
    Trophy Points:
    431
    Location:
    West Georgia
    CJ Brown, angelo c, smokey7 and 5 others like this.
  13. paragonbuilder

    paragonbuilder Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Messages:
    9,107
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    501
    Location:
    Norwich, CT
    Pto side transfer is a bit lazy.
     
  14. paragonbuilder

    paragonbuilder Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Messages:
    9,107
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    501
    Location:
    Norwich, CT
    Looks to me the the intake upper transfer on pto side needs a little more aiming towards intake, and roof is aiming up more than the other side, needs to be flattened.
     
  15. Sty57

    Sty57 ONE OF THE GREATEST!

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2016
    Messages:
    6,110
    Likes Received:
    37,651
    Trophy Points:
    495
    Location:
    Land of Cheese & Beer
    I just glad to see the pink bike is inside safe and sound.........
     
  16. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
    think about how wide the tr ports are, how narrow the bridge is, what part of the tr is feeding
     
  17. paragonbuilder

    paragonbuilder Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Messages:
    9,107
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    501
    Location:
    Norwich, CT
    I’ve not seen a 461 cylinder in person. Can you post a pic of the transfers to look at?
     
  18. Redfin

    Redfin Meh...

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    5,689
    Likes Received:
    26,954
    Trophy Points:
    433
    Location:
    Central Pa
    What are the rules for muffler for this saw Scott?
     
  19. tree monkey

    tree monkey Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2015
    Messages:
    3,565
    Likes Received:
    28,454
    Trophy Points:
    548
    Location:
    wi
  20. paragonbuilder

    paragonbuilder Jon1212 Approved!

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2016
    Messages:
    9,107
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    501
    Location:
    Norwich, CT
    Posted together to study them
    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
Loading...

Share This Page

Loading...
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice