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  1. Spike60

    Spike60 ONE OF THE GREATEST!

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    A wealth of info in this thread, and not at all surprising. So........plenty of thanks to all of you guys for helping out. Lot's of thorough and well targeted posts. :)

    Spoke to my distributor rep and it's pretty much a go at this point. Going to take a close look at everything when I'm down there for the Exmark meeting in 2 weeks. He understands my maximum sales from limited SKU's approach, AKA cherry picking vs a "representing the line" mentality.

    Should be a good meeting, and the bar in the hotel we stay at is real good. LOL
     
  2. Wood Doctor

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    I think we may have raised some eyebrows from Stihl top-handle chain saw owners. These top-handle Stihl saws do not walk on water by any means. I now have two Echo saws that are nearly 20 years old that run flawlessly and have been easy to keep going -- CS-340 and Cs-3400. I would not trade either one for a Stihl top-handle saw that today costs two to three times as much. That's MHO.
     
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  3. hseII

    hseII AKA - Kim's Husband

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    I run 3- 200Ts & that’s because I have great dealer support.

    When they finally cost more to repair than to be replaced by MM 355Ts, I will own 355Ts.
     
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  4. Rob Stafari

    Rob Stafari Pinnacle OPE Member

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    My friend who runs the local tree service also was the town stihlership for many years before selling it off. He won't consider another ground saw besides stihl, despite me proving my dolkita is superior ;). That being said he runs all echo top handles and an echo pole saw. Has had very good reliable performance for years. He won't use saw lanyards. Says he would rather buy a new saw than risk someone getting hurt on the job. Chit happens and they will get dropped. Why would he drop a 600+ dollar saw out of a tree when the little echos perform just as well for him and cost so much less. I have two 200ts, but if I were to buy a smaller top handle, it would be a 2511 without a doubt. My other friend has a 150t he swears by, but I've heard him fighting to get it tuned and wasn't impressed. I've never seen a tuning screwdriver touching one of the little echos and the get the snot ran out of them daily. Not that they wouldn't benefit from it, but they keep running well enough despite the fact.
     
  5. malk315

    malk315 Running Saws for Therapy

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    @Spike60 Bob we ended up getting a CS355T and so far we love it. I had further chatted with Mason @huskyboy about it and decided to pull the trigger.

    We will see how it goes once we get some more time on it, but so far it's been fantastic. The plan is to use it as a backup for MS200T which needs a few new parts installed I plan to do soon -- part of which will be to check and replace the intake boot if it's got any problems.

    So far the only nit I can come up with for the CS355T is that the holes you pour the fuel and oil into seem kind of small. But it is great not having to deal with flippy caps -- normal caps on the echo saw are much easier to deal with. One other thing we did was to put Stihl 3/8 LP (Picco) chain on it. It comes with Oregon 91VXL chain and we kept that loop for a spare.

    I didn't read this entire thread -- just stopping in. It's been difficult to keep up with OPE lately and hope to get back on track once winter approaches!

    Cheers.
     
  6. usmcbuckwild

    usmcbuckwild Pinnacle OPE Member

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    I have worked over Echos (355t qnd 2511t) as well as Stihls (200t, 201t, 193t) and to be 100% honest: I think the Echos win out. They are more ergonomic, easier to work on, respond better to mods and are much more affordable. Yes, the 200T set a pretty high standard (when properly modded) but also set a pretty high price point.

    I work with several tree services, one of which turned me on to the Echo saws. I started playing with them and found them to be much more receptive to basic mods as well as port work than their Stihl counterparts. I talked 2 of the other tree companies (both of which were stalwart Stihl only companies) into trying a single modded 355T for 1 day. At the end of that day, each and every one of the climbers and bucket operators from BOTH companies demanded 355Ts from their bosses. These guys run modded 201T and 193T every day. I sold 8 saws in 1 day just letting the actual cutters use it, not the guy in the office make the call. I did nothing outlandish with the saw; same basic recipe Mastermind and several other known porters use. Muff mod, VERY MILD timing change, a little port reshaping, minimal change in upper transfer height, small change in lower transfer “intake” and a good tune with the bar buried in wood. Totally different saw from stock. Overall it took me about 2 hours to mod each 355T. But, I do each one separately.

    Can’t beat the Echo TH saws. With slight mods they sell themselves. Just my honest opinion.
     
  7. 72thing

    72thing Chain dulling master

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    I'm no climber, arborist, or professional anything. I ran a MS200T for a while that was awesome, but my tendinitis got so bad I couldn't hardly run it anymore. I sold it, and now that my elbows are better, I sorely miss it. I demoed a 2511T Echo and was very impressed with it, especially for 25cc. I just can't justify it since it would sit most of the time.
     
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    Dub11 Some body poisoned the watering hole!

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    I'm waiting for them to make a 2511 with a rear handle.
     
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    A rear handle version would be nice, too
     
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    pro94lt Super OPE Member

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    Show him a break away lanyard... they break at 15lbs or so
     
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    I have one and have shown and talked to him about it, but he won't budge. Still not as safe as just not having a lanyard and sacrificing the saws. They are his saws, so who am I to argue.
     
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