Did these Caber rings pass quality control?

[Chainsaw Jim]

I can't say I've ever seen a casting flaw like this on a pair before. I'm concerned it's a weak spot that'll eventually break... any opinions or knowledge on this?

 

[cobey]

I haven't seen any like that,
I don't think it would break, but it' discouraging to see that

 

[wcorey]

It's odd how both are in the same spot and how the machine marks are undefined/mushed up to the right of both spots.
Sort of looks galled by dull tooling or something but then it should go all the way around.
Seems like that whole side is not so ductile, more crumbly like 'regular' cast iron, so not just a casting flaw but a big *s-wordty spot in the billet.

I wouldn't chance using 'em...

 

[rattler]

Jim I ran into this my Friend.

 

[Dub11]

Well srap now I need to look over the last few sets I just got.

Thanks @Chainsaw Jim for pointing this out I would have never looked

 

[Warped5]

Gonna check some I have too ...

 

[CR888]

While its not an ideal situation seeing those faults on Cabers, I don't think performance will suffer. The casting flaw is on part of the ring face and while they both have the flaw, once installed inline with locating pins the faults will be in different locations. But certainly not what you expect from Caber, we seek them for quality not that.

 

[wcorey]

To me it looks like a there's difference in material in part of the ring, not just a casting flaw.
Why else would one abruptly defined section of the ring machine so differently from another?
Cast iron that's not ductile is relatively weak and brittle...

 

[cus_deluxe]

Yep, id send those right back. Literally got 4 sets with some stuff from HL today in the mail.

 

[cobey]

I'l check mine..... poop

 

[Mattyo]

yep, now I'm gonna be checkin mine too before install... never have looked that closely before ...yikes

 

[wcorey]

I zoomed in for a better look on a big screen and now think there's a good possibility its not material related as I had thought but more like something smeared across the face of the rings and mushed the machine marks flat as well as galling it a bit.

 

[P.M.P.]

Dam Ay needs ta apply faw ayy posishun on there guality control inspecshun personel posishun

 

[BuckthornBonnie]

I’ve used a lot of Cabers and noticed one similar issue on an 064. I always gently flex the rings and inspect em before oiling and installing them. On one, the ring just snapped in my hands worse than cheap chinese rings. I looked and found discoloration at the break point... I assumed casting flaw since the box wasn’t damaged by shipping.

Bought a new set from Dave and no problems since.

They’re still the best AM rings imo, but ya gotta look em over.

 

[rattler]

I’ve used a lot of Cabers and noticed one similar issue on an 064. I always gently flex the rings and inspect em before oiling and installing them. On one, the ring just snapped in my hands worse than cheap chinese rings. I looked and found discoloration at the break point... I assumed casting flaw since the box wasn’t damaged by shipping.

Bought a new set from Dave and no problems since.

They’re still the best AM rings imo, but ya gotta look em over.

I still use Caber's I just check them really good.

 

[earlthegoat2]

Don’t ever look too closely at anything. You won’t like what you see nearly every time.

I used to think things like this meant one slipped past QC. Now I tend to think QC departments are well aware of most every defect that is possible on their lines and they have already picked and chosen which ones are acceptable or not.

Sometimes what results they deemed acceptable turn out to be real problems and I bet those are somewhat rare if the company had any reputation behind them.

Check everything out with your microscope if you want to but I guarantee you will not like what you find and it will leave even less time for woodcutting.

Maybe try running them? Bound to be many out there like this that have had good success after being installed.

 

[Chainsaw Jim]

Maybe try running them? Bound to be many out there like this that have had good success after being installed.

That's exactly what I'm curious about. They're inexpensive anyways so I'll just get more.. plus I'd rather not use a ported 111 super as the guinea pig for em.

 

[Heffalump]

What's all this about a ported 111Super? Who the hell would actually have such a collectors piece ported?!?!

Oh....yeah....

 

[Cut4fun]

I posted those new hyway rings that came with the pop up kit with a set of cabers. Notice the black spot on the 1 ring. That isnt the hyway.

I cant get good pics like you folks.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I posted those new hyway rings that came with the pop up kit with a set of cabers. Notice the black spot on the 1 ring. That isnt the hyway.

I cant get good pics like you folks.

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How are the Hyway rings? Any good? Thanks