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  1. 5155

    5155 Well-Known OPE Member

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    Probably since so many wrench turners on here.
    I have since Grandpa held my hand.

    Anyways, Got a good website to watch the metals market ups and downs?
     
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    I have never found a decent one.

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    I scrap copper wire when I get enough of it. I watch the stock market price and the scrap price follows along with it usually 30-40 cents less a pound. 60-70 cents less if insulated
     
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    Camden Iron and Metals.
    Camden NJ
    Always current
    Precious metals scale
    East coast prices
     
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    Hinerman Here For The Long Haul!

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    I used to work for a scrap metal company. I love the industry. Would still be in it if my boss weren't such a prickhead. I couldn't get another job with the competition and didn't want to move.
     
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    So any websites you know of, to follow daily or weekly pricing trends?

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    Hinerman Here For The Long Haul!

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    I have been out for over 20 years. I asked a friend who runs a scrap yard. Here is what he said and uses:

    "Srapmonster.com is a good and free one. 'American Metal Market' is the best but cost big $$$. I use both of those to get most of my info."
     
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    I just ask my guys at the local yards, know them all, where the dealer price will be in three weeks. Smart money plans ahead for scrap. Hit the top and wait it out again if you can do. If not find one yard and stick to them. Ask for more money. Just work an angle.
     
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    I could rarely hit the peak price and don't spend much thought about it, but it's nice when we do.
    I have 3 I sell to, depending on what I have.
    One has contract to Alcoa and I think all others sell Al there.
    Other two are closer and get the heavy and tin.

    Got about two plus tons of #1 prep steel ready,
    I ponder how long I will wait. In the meantime keep prepping.
    Last I heard it was 7.5 a hundred.
     
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    I seem to collect more than sell scrap steel .Copper on the other hand over the years have sold tons of it .Because was involved in the electrical construction for 20 years I had plenty of sources .Some was free ,some I cut the source in on the profits .I think the best I ever did was $1.10 a pound .I once had 1800 pounds of number 2 copper in a Ranger pick pick me up ,low rider so to speak .
     
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    Now on the "buying " end of steel over the years I've jokeyed farm machinery and had bought several repairable tractors for scrap or below prices .Used reclaimed parts and repaired and resold them .However the price for parts rose to the point when I no longer felt it was worth my time I stopped .On automobiles I've never made a dime .
    My best two I kept for myself .A TO 20 Ferguson with a Davis loader and a cracked block $250 and an Oliver OC-6 Crawler for $200 which I completely went through,engine undercarriage etc .I also have a 1940 D4 Caterpillar with a cracked head but everything else seems to be okay I just haven't had the time to repair $200 .5 ton that's $40 a ton.
    The old Cat was used as a ag tractor and evidently pulled a 5 bottom pull type plow in Indiana it has a PTO which is not a standard item . Later it was used to pull the largest ground drive manure spreader I had ever seen in my life time on a dairy farm .That monster of a thing had 38" tractor tires on the drive wheels .Evidently they let the coolant water level go down and cracked the head .
     
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    I'm currently watching for a small farm tractor. I got a like new 5' Woods finish deck as a tip from a job, it needs to run and I got yard. Set up for a Cub but they are quite adaptable. Be nice to have a front bucket.
    Looked at an 8n, but kinda still watching.

    Was told that Ohio auction can be good. Rogers?

    Don't get a lot of copper in my world. I saved for years then I gutted the old house and cashed all in at the last peak price. Done good and was able to help finance the remod.
     
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    The prices on 8-9 N's and Fergesons can fluctuate some but generally just goes up .They might be okay with the original "Dearborn" light duty loaders but the heavier like Davis will overload the front axle .Plus the OEM little skinny front tires won't hold the load .On top of that they don't have power steering making them nearly impossible to steer with a loaded bucket .
    I can tell you from experience because on my Fergy I plated both sides of the center axle with 1/2" plate steel to keep it from bending after straightening it for the umteenth time .Plus I have big fat azz Jeep tires on the front with 80 psi air pressure and barrel full of concrete for a counter weight .IMO you need a heavier tractor like a Massey 65 or something maybe Aliss WD 45 with a wide front axle and you will still need a counter weight .
     
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    There's much much better tractors for only a little more money than an 8N. Live power and live hydraulics are crucial improvements. Also, first gear and reverse are too fast on the Ns.
     
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    Thanks for you guys experience. It seemed priced "ok" at asking 1100, but I figure if I go THAT small and old, it'll be another Cub. I have experience and parts for those.
    And the Woods is now set up for the belly of a Cub. Bigger would be better.
     
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    Really??? Best I ever did with copper was $3/lb

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    With a full bucket set it on ground lift up front, steer direction you want to go then lift bucket up. Still issue with overloading though. But the steering there is a work around , will take more time, but with an N tractor you won't be in any hurry anyway

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    With the old Dearborn loaders they don't hold much more than a wheelbarrow full of dirt .Better than a shovel though I guess
     
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