High Quality Chainsaw Bars Husqvarna Toys Hockfire Saws

True Leakdown Tester - Recommendations?

SteveSr

Well-Known OPE Member
Local time
5:07 PM
User ID
2294
Joined
Dec 14, 2016
Messages
142
Reaction score
101
Location
North Carolina
Country flag
Hello,

I am looking for a true leakdown tester for use on small engines. This is the type to test valve leakage and and ring sealing in 4-strokes. Primary use will probably be on Stihl 4-mix but could also find use on other small engines.

Thanks,
 

SteveSr

Well-Known OPE Member
Local time
5:07 PM
User ID
2294
Joined
Dec 14, 2016
Messages
142
Reaction score
101
Location
North Carolina
Country flag
I made my own after being let down by two expensive pieces of rubbish. Do a quick YouTube search, it’s so simple..

Yes, a regulator, 2-calibrated gauges separated by a calibrated orifice. It is interesting that Stihl removes the inlet side pressure numbers from their gauge so that you don't really know what pressure you are testing at. I am also wondering if they have changed the "standard" .040" diameter orifice to something smaller to better fit with small engine usage.
 

Vintage Engine Repairs

Pinnacle OPE Member
Local time
5:07 AM
User ID
10195
Joined
Aug 15, 2019
Messages
482
Reaction score
1,853
Location
australia
Yes, a regulator, 2-calibrated gauges separated by a calibrated orifice. It is interesting that Stihl removes the inlet side pressure numbers from their gauge so that you don't really know what pressure you are testing at. I am also wondering if they have changed the "standard" .040" diameter orifice to something smaller to better fit with small engine usage.
I highly doubt they’d adjust the orifice size, it’s very much an industry spec. The hole is 1mm so it’s really not much. I think they’d explain in the instructions to open the regulator on the left gauge to “position 1” (furthest to the right) and then just note the percentage loss off the right gauge to keep it simple.

I do like it, being Stihl and all! Hahah

here is mine:

DB13CE91-E2F6-40E8-A295-B4CEFFA788BA.jpeg
 

SteveSr

Well-Known OPE Member
Local time
5:07 PM
User ID
2294
Joined
Dec 14, 2016
Messages
142
Reaction score
101
Location
North Carolina
Country flag
So where did you find the calibrated 1mm orifice or did you make it? Also, how do you read the leak % from the psi gauge?

I did find out that the Stihl tester (5910-850-0300) is made by Thexton. I looked in their catalog but didn't see anything similar so it must be a private contract. There is also some more information on it contained in Stihl training documentation TLS 205. If anyone has access to this I would appreciate a PM.
 

Vintage Engine Repairs

Pinnacle OPE Member
Local time
5:07 AM
User ID
10195
Joined
Aug 15, 2019
Messages
482
Reaction score
1,853
Location
australia
Just made it, fill that tube with Jb weld, let it cure and drill the hole out.

to read the leak down there is an equation, When in back in the workshop I’ll photograph the document I made as a reminder and share it here.
 

SteveSr

Well-Known OPE Member
Local time
5:07 PM
User ID
2294
Joined
Dec 14, 2016
Messages
142
Reaction score
101
Location
North Carolina
Country flag
Here is a thread from the guy that developed the Stihl tester:

https://www.masterblasterhome.com/threads/leak-down-gauge-search.23384/

It sounds like they modified their version to test at lower pressures to avoid blowing out crankcase seals if used on sealed engines. They may have also done "something" to increase the sensitivity. It would be nice to know what those gauges really read in PSI.
 

Stevetheboatguy

mountain dew and ibuprofen please
Local time
4:07 PM
User ID
2591
Joined
Feb 6, 2017
Messages
1,797
Reaction score
8,409
Location
Nw IL
Country flag
Here is a thread from the guy that developed the Stihl tester:

https://www.masterblasterhome.com/threads/leak-down-gauge-search.23384/

It sounds like they modified their version to test at lower pressures to avoid blowing out crankcase seals if used on sealed engines. They may have also done "something" to increase the sensitivity. It would be nice to know what those gauges really read in PSI.

My guess would be they are 0-50 gauges with the psi markings removed. The pic from Mark is fuzzy but it looks to have a 0-50 regulator. So 0-50 gauges makes the most sense to me.


Steven
 

Vintage Engine Repairs

Pinnacle OPE Member
Local time
5:07 AM
User ID
10195
Joined
Aug 15, 2019
Messages
482
Reaction score
1,853
Location
australia
Interesting, with a simple equation you can test at whatever psi you wish… here is a video I did…
2022061A-FA5E-4BB7-8C08-15738135429E.jpeg
 
Last edited:
Top