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No skidder on this job (it would be a waste of time), cut to length out in woods and forward it out with rottne. Mostly 22ft firewood length and low grade logs. I’m bucking to length, cutting whatever few oversize and hard to reach stuffs he can’t with the doosan.

My cousin that was building pads has a DX225LL, it's a hell of a machine.
 

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It's funny how the markets differ around the country. Everything around me is cut to 8 or 9 ft lengths.
Well with the exception of one mill but they do all their own logging so nobody's cutting for them.
Yup we cut most of the low grade to 8-9ft too. 10’s and 12’s on higher grade stuff.
 

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I don’t know how to operate that one, don’t drive it. Our forwarder guy uses it. I know how to use our Franklin forwarder but that ones a bit different controls.
 

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I don’t know how to operate that one, don’t drive it. Our forwarder guy uses it. I know how to use our Franklin forwarder but that ones a bit different controls.

Park brake switch in released position, ladder switch if equipped, forward or reverse on the rocker that’s on the chair.


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Park brake switch in released position, ladder switch if equipped, forward or reverse on the rocker that’s on the chair.


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Grapple operated from the chair?

I'd prolly have some grapple repair if that was my personal machine in that situation.
 

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Grapple operated from the chair?

I'd prolly have some grapple repair if that was my personal machine in that situation.

Yes joysticks are mounted to the chair that you turn either direction. When I ran forwarder all the time I’d run the chair in between the three locking positions so I didn’t have to swing my neck all the time to follow the log, unless I was on steep ground. Some of the newer forwarder hav rotating cabs that follow the boom to help operator fatigue like the harvesters. This is in a Rottne harvester I demoed before getting our Deere 1270


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Last one of the day and an ugly sob at that.


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It looks like you pulled it over instead of piecing it down. How did you do it (pull it over)?

2 - 5 ton come a longs to a big hickory down the hill. Tied two bull ropes in the top about 3/4 of the way up. Alternated tightening them up slowly. Back cut a little, pull a little until we got them headed the right way. I didn’t have a groundsman who could run a portawrap that day or I would have chunked them out.
 

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2 - 5 ton come a longs to a big hickory down the hill. Tied two bull ropes in the top about 3/4 of the way up. Alternated tightening them up slowly. Back cut a little, pull a little until we got them headed the right way. I didn’t have a groundsman who could run a portawrap that day or I would have chunked them out.

Would a set of jacks be faster?


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Would a set of jacks be faster?


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Yes, they would have been quicker by far. Setting two bull ropes in a tree, setting up the winches, etc takes a lot of time. That tree took over an hour of setup. If I had a tree Jack setup it would have been cut Jack seat, hammer wedges as I Jack and profit. But big come a longs are $100 each and tree jacks seem to be in the thousands. I’ve thought about welding 6” square plates onto a low pro bottle Jack but there seems to be a lot of consensus that they are bad to spit out backwards and not as safe.
 

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And let me add, there is a lot of redundancy in that setup. But I price enough time margin in to allow for that. One smaller come a long would have pulled it. But using a 5 ton means that I have more than enough capacity. Using two of them makes sure that even if I have a complete failure of the winch or a rope break I still don’t lose control of the tree. I used 3/4 bull ropes with a 20k lb tensile strength. Again, rated for more capacity than I need and two of them in case of a failure. I also drove wedges as I went, even in the extraordinary event of a complete system failure of both pulling systems the tree can’t set back, it will stay where it’s at until we can get something else setup. I’m not a production faller, and when it’s leaning over a $300k rental cabin in Gatlinburg I can afford to take the extra time for the setup
 

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Yes, they would have been quicker by far. Setting two bull ropes in a tree, setting up the winches, etc takes a lot of time. That tree took over an hour of setup. If I had a tree Jack setup it would have been cut Jack seat, hammer wedges as I Jack and profit. But big come a longs are $100 each and tree jacks seem to be in the thousands. I’ve thought about welding 6” square plates onto a low pro bottle Jack but there seems to be a lot of consensus that they are bad to spit out backwards and not as safe.

Yup set up with ropes and directional pulleys is always a PITA but a whole lot cheaper than the alternative!
Earlier this year I went into a 600' roll of 3/4" arborist rope and split it with one of my park managers, 900.00 smakers. That being said I definitely don't want to be the guy who crushes a house, or power transformer.
The same day I bought the rope the shop owner was telling me about a crew that just fubar'd themselves using a cheap azz rope to direct a 30" oak and when the rope snapped it fell into the neighbors property across the inground pool and the lower part of the house, it broke both retaining walls of the pool and cracked the foundation of the house!
Best part is, when the neighbor came home that jack wagon told them he'd remove the tree for 5000.00 , haha they immediately called a lawyer.
 
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