anatoli031585
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Hey Ray, you and others are true saints and I continue to be impressed with your devotion to letting us all have access to the information we all should be given freely by the manufacturers despite liability or profitability concerns. Ive spent an hour attempting to find this before imposition, as I always do, so far no joy.
I require an ipl and sm for a Stihl br430, and since I'm down here begging anyway, it would help out to have ipls for an ms362 and 440, as I was able to dl the sm for both at the beginning of this thread from backhoelover posting to the thread. Shout out to his generosity as well! I may have missed it but an sm & ipl for an ms271 would be my last of the new saws I don't already have the resources on.
And I don't know if anyone can answer this but after a few hours reading here and Arboristsite, I am curious though I doubt there is a single reference document either by stihl or other major brand concerning cylinder and piston restoration or cleaning up inlet outlet ports, but does such a resource exist? I would imagine in favor of replacing everything, it would not be offered by any manufacturer but maybe somewhere independent?
I have 2 br430s just purchased, one is DOM 2013 and is the most immaculate machine I have ever seen outside showrooms, I got it on its way to being stripped down (a lovely bag of puzzle pieces). The story being abundantly clear that someone ran straight gas the very first use, but with no residual oil buildup for lubrication beyond that used in initial assembly, clearly overheated enough to lock the clamshell bolts into the aluminum and spring a leak in the pan seal. With the almost new condition despite the dry film everywhere, almost like graphite, and piston skirt scoring, the bearings are tight and I feel I can save it, an experiment at the very least. It was not seized, and there is almost no surface topography damage or any real transfer to the cylinder beyond the discoloration from the rings... Im thinking i can decoke, fine sand, polish and may even reuse the rings as only a tiny segment of the bottom one was even slightly bound in the ring groove. I intend to create a thread as I'm documenting the process along the way but information has been, not really conflicting, instead methodologies and recommendations I have discovered vary slightly but vary significantly.
I don't know but would hope there was a more standardized model and method, at least concerning nikasil (or other coated) 2 stroke/4mix stihl (or other) aluminum P&C, my thinking that even the other alloys employed in P&C would be a different approach as well. As I said, its a hope, but I will proceed with a combination of choices gleaned as part of the experiment nonetheless. Anyone know of something like that?
Thank you truly to RayBenson, backhoelover, and others like them. I in turn, whenever opportunity arrises, regularly share the hard earned or learned information I have gathered these past 2 years. My income is linked to marketplace so I'm on that platform typically, and it seems that's where the knowledge is required most since, by comparison, its an unruly circus there and not the ordered and civil community that I have sourced most of my information from and continue to enjoy here in a couple other places. Facebook resembles a cacophony of clamoring cuckoo birds, and while entertaining, only serves to distort and disguise accurate fact, as it masquerades uninhibited reinforced by subjective conviction.... :'( .
I require an ipl and sm for a Stihl br430, and since I'm down here begging anyway, it would help out to have ipls for an ms362 and 440, as I was able to dl the sm for both at the beginning of this thread from backhoelover posting to the thread. Shout out to his generosity as well! I may have missed it but an sm & ipl for an ms271 would be my last of the new saws I don't already have the resources on.
And I don't know if anyone can answer this but after a few hours reading here and Arboristsite, I am curious though I doubt there is a single reference document either by stihl or other major brand concerning cylinder and piston restoration or cleaning up inlet outlet ports, but does such a resource exist? I would imagine in favor of replacing everything, it would not be offered by any manufacturer but maybe somewhere independent?
I have 2 br430s just purchased, one is DOM 2013 and is the most immaculate machine I have ever seen outside showrooms, I got it on its way to being stripped down (a lovely bag of puzzle pieces). The story being abundantly clear that someone ran straight gas the very first use, but with no residual oil buildup for lubrication beyond that used in initial assembly, clearly overheated enough to lock the clamshell bolts into the aluminum and spring a leak in the pan seal. With the almost new condition despite the dry film everywhere, almost like graphite, and piston skirt scoring, the bearings are tight and I feel I can save it, an experiment at the very least. It was not seized, and there is almost no surface topography damage or any real transfer to the cylinder beyond the discoloration from the rings... Im thinking i can decoke, fine sand, polish and may even reuse the rings as only a tiny segment of the bottom one was even slightly bound in the ring groove. I intend to create a thread as I'm documenting the process along the way but information has been, not really conflicting, instead methodologies and recommendations I have discovered vary slightly but vary significantly.
I don't know but would hope there was a more standardized model and method, at least concerning nikasil (or other coated) 2 stroke/4mix stihl (or other) aluminum P&C, my thinking that even the other alloys employed in P&C would be a different approach as well. As I said, its a hope, but I will proceed with a combination of choices gleaned as part of the experiment nonetheless. Anyone know of something like that?
Thank you truly to RayBenson, backhoelover, and others like them. I in turn, whenever opportunity arrises, regularly share the hard earned or learned information I have gathered these past 2 years. My income is linked to marketplace so I'm on that platform typically, and it seems that's where the knowledge is required most since, by comparison, its an unruly circus there and not the ordered and civil community that I have sourced most of my information from and continue to enjoy here in a couple other places. Facebook resembles a cacophony of clamoring cuckoo birds, and while entertaining, only serves to distort and disguise accurate fact, as it masquerades uninhibited reinforced by subjective conviction.... :'( .
