Stihl 461 unlimited coil

[deye223]

G'day all looks like I had my wires crossed the other week I was asking about an unlimited coil for a 461 thinking I was getting a 1300 looks like I ordered the 13 14 will it work is there something I need to know .

Cheers D

 

[SOS Ridgerider]

I moved your thread to the general chainsaw page. It’ll get more views there.

 

[deye223]

I moved your thread to the general chainsaw page. It’ll get more views there.

Thanks

 

[huskihl]

It’ll work fine. It just doesn’t have the timing retard feature at start up

 

[deye223]

Thanks , so similar to the 1300

 

[huskihl]

Thanks , so similar to the 1300

Probably identical, other than the easier starting

 

[deye223]

G'day again if I roll this rubber boot back will the plug lead just screw out so I can replace it with the original off the 461.



Cheers

 

[huskihl]

G'day again if I roll this rubber boot back will the plug lead just screw out so I can replace it with the original off the 461.

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Cheers

Yes

 

[deye223]

Thank you very much hopefully I'm done with the dumb questions I just haven't done a coil on a chainsaw before only dirt bikes

 

[dall]

Thank you very much hopefully I'm done with the dumb questions I just haven't done a coil on a chainsaw before only dirt bikes

the 046 460 461 and 660 with the poly flywheels have a raised edge where the coil fires at so its not completely round for when you do the air gap for the coil

 

[deye223]

So I set the gap at over magnet

 

[dall]

So I set the gap at over magnet

yes but it doesnt look like a magnet set up like the other saws have

 

[ManiacalMark]

Leave the coil a little loose, slide a business card in between the coil and flywheel. Roll the flywheel back until the magnetlines up with the coil. Tighten bolts and pull the card out.

 

[Wonkydonkey]

Leave the coil a little loose, slide a business card in between the coil and flywheel. Roll the flywheel back until the magnetlines up with the coil. Tighten bolts and pull the card out.

Yep that’s the way it should be done the easiest, although there are more difficult ways that others use, ie a metal feeler..

 

[ManiacalMark]

Yep that’s the way it should be done the easiest, although there are more difficult ways that others use, ie a metal feeler..

I've never attempted to do it any other way. It's always worked for me this way and if the card is junk, burn it and use a new one.

 

[deye223]

Job done took 15 minutes thank you very much for the advice.
Only problem I've got now is it runs between 12600 and 13400 and sort of won't settle down .

 

[drf256]

Job done took 15 minutes thank you very much for the advice.
Only problem I've got now is it runs between 12600 and 13400 and sort of won't settle down .
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What do you mean by “settle down”?

Do you mean that it won’t stay consistent at a certain top rpm and floats all over the place?

If that’s the case, make sure your muffler screen is clean. Then look at the fuel delivery system. You could need a fuel line, filter, impulse line or a carb kit. You also may need to drill the jet in the carb. The HD50 carbs come lean from the factory with a smaller key than the older 044/6 carbs. Check tank vent too.

A limited coil can hide other problems.

How far out is your H needle? Did you pull the limiters?

 

[drf256]

I know this sounds dumb and makes no sense, but I have had saws wander at high rpm from not enough exhaust outlet.

Had it happen recently on a brand new Echo 620 I ported. The saw would wander and wouldn’t want to get over 12500-13400. Struggled to 4 stroke as well and would just wander. I pulled the new stock exhaust screen out of the enlarged outlet I made and the saw jumped to 14500 and stayed stable there. Why it would cause a wander is still a mystery to me.

 

[deye223]

Saw is virtually new not even 10 tanks exhaust outlet was done the week it was picked up same with the limiters my other chainsaws yes I know they will not stay at a given RPM but they only float up and down 200 to 300 RPM .
Saw was warmed up I cut 8 cookies with it will use it this weekend to get 1 face cord see how it goes.