Proof that poop happens.

[sawmikaze]

So what kind of precautions are you guys taking to keep you safe while cutting?

I'll be fine. The usual.

These are the only times I get to be the smartest on the crew.

Your brain is the best safety device there is..and maybe experience.

 

[sawmikaze]

Helluva way to go. Hope there wasn't any suffering. Ya never know man... tomorrow is no guarantee.

He lived for a few hours...*s-wordty deal.

 

[Nutball]

I see a lot of big healthy red oaks around here blow over from their height and lack of root depth and spread, like that one.

 

[Bigmac]

Sucks to to be the owner! Rip

Not all houses are created equal, and it was the perfect storm in this case. It’s like in a falling cut the more holding wood the slower it will fall in a healthy tree, that trees base was clearly rotten and and definitely created more speed. It was also like toe-matter says, tornado in a trailer park.

We did some storm repairs on a house built in the 70’s, a smallish tree fell on it, only ruined the rake board and some plywood. When we took back the roof to repair the plywood..it. Only had nails it the corners,4 nails per sheet, next door a new mobile home lost 15 sheets of osb in the same wind storm, an it lost all of its roof shingles, not all is equal! Lol

 

[drf256]

Horrible.

After Sandy, I removed anything that could hit my house (again).

Lost power early, so had a generator going. My sister had some intuition and said we should get out of dodge. She told me to turn off and move the generator. Glad I listened. 75’ Norway spruce came down, hit roof but rolled off the roof pitch and landed on my deck crushing everything in its way. Woulda hit the running generator full of fuel and likely burned the house down. I got away with repairing 6 roof holes and most of my deck.

Never underestimate Mother Nature. That’s a big lever arm there Ryan. What a shítty way to die. Hope it was painless.

 

[Basher]

Big trees around a home is a disaster in waiting, especially now that the winds reach greater velocity during storms more often. We had a very strong hurricane blow through here and it took a terrific toll on mature trees, all the trees that did not fall were root damaged and continue to fall now even if the winds are not overly strong. Most homeowners wanted all big trees cut back away from their homes, it made a lot of work for many including myself cutting dangerous , ones that could hit a house if they fell, trees from around residential dwellings. People have been killed here by falling trees and the property damage is over the moon when one drops and hits a building.

 

[huskyboy]

So what kind of precautions are you guys taking to keep you safe while cutting?

I’ll say two words, tension and compression. Also... be ready to move quickly.

 

[sawmikaze]

Insurance company hit the brakes on us.

Gotta wait a few days.

 

[sawmikaze]

See the tree out in the yard ?

There are walls that have foam and some with plywood on this house. I framed for 15 years and never saw it..weird.

 

[sawmikaze]

Horrible.

After Sandy, I removed anything that could hit my house (again).

Lost power early, so had a generator going. My sister had some intuition and said we should get out of dodge. She told me to turn off and move the generator. Glad I listened. 75’ Norway spruce came down, hit roof but rolled off the roof pitch and landed on my deck crushing everything in its way. Woulda hit the running generator full of fuel and likely burned the house down. I got away with repairing 6 roof holes and most of my deck.

Never underestimate Mother Nature. That’s a big lever arm there Ryan. What a shítty way to die. Hope it was painless.

I guess being a doctor you could appreciate this..

There was an ER doctor on the scene that assisted with the extraction. The guy was hit around 2:30 and wasn't pulled out until around 4:30. He died around 7... I know there is a ton of red tape in these situations, but I kinda think letting him lay in the house for that amount of time wasn't doing much for his chance of survival. I woulda had his ass outta there pronto with the advice of a doctor.

I have an opinion on our EMT's and volunteer fire personnel but I piss enough people off so I'll keep that one to myself.

 

[sawmikaze]

Big difference from mostly just a single main trunk blasting through a house compared to a 40’ wide top landing on a house.
Sucks for dude in said house. Not a job that would give ya warm fuzzy feelings, cleaning that one up.

I'll text you some video.

 

[BK13]

You can never get the insurance to cover removals preemptively. Never understood that. Stitch in time saves lives.

Because the insurance business is more about business and less about insurance.

 

[drf256]

I guess being a doctor you could appreciate this..

There was an ER doctor on the scene that assisted with the extraction. The guy was hit around 2:30 and wasn't pulled out until around 4:30. He died around 7... I know there is a ton of red tape in these situations, but I kinda think letting him lay in the house for that amount of time wasn't doing much for his chance of survival. I woulda had his ass outta there pronto with the advice of a doctor.

I have an opinion on our EMT's and volunteer fire personnel but I piss enough people off so I'll keep that one to myself.

They suck if they let him lay there. I have the same opinion of them in general.

I could tell you stories about their bravado interfering with competence.

Life matters, and that's it. Should be no red tape.

 

[drf256]

Had a lady in my office with chest pain. Known cardiac history. I do an EKG and she is having a heart attack-I call 911.

Had a guy collapse in the lobby of our building having a stroke. I’m down there holding the guys head up and holding his wrist for his pulse-my staff calls 911.

Every time they get there, they have to show their prowess. I’m pretty respectful to everyone, I never try to pull rank and I don’t think I’m ever a díck to other medical professionals regardless of their place in the system.

Both times, they had to take a full history completely refusing to listen to my input. I had already done all the testing needed, they had to repeat it. With the woman having a heart attack, I told them no less than 5 times that they were being medically negligent because time is what matters. The longer you wait, the more heart muscle dies. They didn’t care, ignored me. So there was a 30 min delay and a small heart attack became a big heart attack. I also already called the hospital, the patients own cardiologist, and the docs that do angiograms and stents to get ready. Sent them the ekg via fax.

I still tell the lady till this day that she has a Med-Mal suit there, she being normal is still just gracious.

Bad to generalize, but the above story has been repeated no less than 10 times in the 25+ years I’ve been doing this. Not everyone sucks, but the ones by me do. Giant chips on their shoulders that anyone more trained might steal their thunder. I wouldn’t care if they wanted me to wipe the patients ass, just get them the care they need and I’ll be the lowest one on the totem pole. Stop being asshòles.

 

[Wolverine]

I’m not trying to be a dink, are they just supposed to trust whatever someone tells them when they roll up on a scene? I don’t see how that would work. What if they took your information and it was wrong, who’d be liable? I know... too much litigation in the world, I get that. But in a situation like that, they need to do it their way. At least that’s how I see it. I have full respect for your opinion, no disrespect meant.
In the house/tree incident, I’m not sure I’d want to start climbing through the maze, what if zhit fell from under me? Then I become part of the rescue. Have to be able to safely get to the rescue-ee.

 

[drf256]

You would think that’s how it should work.

By me, they are all trying to be hero’s and don’t want that taken.

It’s like all else, the real heroes don’t act or speak of their actions. These people are on a power trip.

When I’ve known it to be a soft case I just say “I see how this is going, this case is all yours. Good luck” and then I walk away.

For all I know, it could be litigation, but you might think they’d explain that they have a procedure no matter what.

One also would hope that humanity might trump the legal part, but many of these guys have walnut sized brains.

 

[drf256]

Ask your own doctor one day what it’s like on the rare occasion they need an ambulance to the office.

Betcha they tell you what I just did.

 

[sawmikaze]

You would think that’s how it should work.

By me, they are all trying to be hero’s and don’t want that taken.

It’s like all else, the real heroes don’t act or speak of their actions. These people are on a power trip.

When I’ve known it to be a soft case I just say “I see how this is going, this case is all yours. Good luck” and then I walk away.

For all I know, it could be litigation, but you might think they’d explain that they have a procedure no matter what.

One also would hope that humanity might trump the legal part, but many of these guys have walnut sized brains.

Walnut sized..exactly what I had in mind....

I'll say it..

While I applaud people who are willing to donate their time and effort...and I know we all live in different places so we have different perspectives..

I think in my area firefighters need paid and some requirements met. I'm being dead serious when I say this..I bet you not one person on that extraction team could do 5 push ups or run up a flight of 50 steps.

If they wanna have volunteers to assist those people that's great. But some of those people move like old people fukk..and the thought of your life being in their hands is pretty scary...

 

[sawmikaze]

I’m not trying to be a dink, are they just supposed to trust whatever someone tells them when they roll up on a scene? I don’t see how that would work. What if they took your information and it was wrong, who’d be liable? I know... too much litigation in the world, I get that. But in a situation like that, they need to do it their way. At least that’s how I see it. I have full respect for your opinion, no disrespect meant.
In the house/tree incident, I’m not sure I’d want to start climbing through the maze, what if zhit fell from under me? Then I become part of the rescue. Have to be able to safely get to the rescue-ee.

Litigation and Liability were the two biggest concerns..unfortunately..

 

[Wolverine]

Litigation and Liability were the two biggest concerns..unfortunately..

Sad but true.

I appreciate them because I am not the type person to be able to help when there’s blood and guts present.
I smell what you are stepping in though.