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Well the pipeline was for importing more, but there are other levers that could be pulled. There's enough energy in the ground that gas could cost a quarter a gallon. Now I don't expect that, but it could be.

But more $$ fuel gets, the more feasible the alternatives become. The people that make these decisions can afford $60/gal gas.
This is Best Answer material right here folks…no matter how you add it or stack it, this is ‘the’ agenda that’ll get exploited!
 
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Compared to Europe, we have cheap fuel prices even now. But it still hurts. Fuel ain't the thing I'm really worried about though.

Fertilizer.

Russia and Belarus produce 35% of the world's supply of potash. And they will not be selling it for the foreseeable future. Also, China decided in October to stop exporting all fertilizer. As fertilizer prices increase, and supply dwindles, food prices will spike. Folks on fixed income will be hit hard by this. They can drive less....but they gotta eat.

As for the Keystone pipeline....it was never intended to supply oil for domestic use. It would have supplied tar sand crude to oil refineries on the gulf coast to be shipped out of the country.

Yeah....this all sucks. But it's not the fault of our leaders, past or present....Republican or Democrat. The world is fairly *f-worded at the moment.

I bought some corral panels a few days ago. 149.95 each. A year ago they were 89.00 each. 5 years ago they were 40.00. Fertilizer is 3 times higher, fuel too. Cattle prices have yet to increase enough to compensate.

Companies are raking in record profits, yet they are still raising prices. That's just greed. Now they are raising prices to add even more pain when they shouldn't be profiteering at a time like this.

Be pissed my friends.....but be pissed at the right people.
 

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Compared to Europe, we have cheap fuel prices even now. But it still hurts. Fuel ain't the thing I'm really worried about though.

Fertilizer.

Russia and Belarus produce 35% of the world's supply of potash. And they will not be selling it for the foreseeable future. Also, China decided in October to stop exporting all fertilizer. As fertilizer prices increase, and supply dwindles, food prices will spike. Folks on fixed income will be hit hard by this. They can drive less....but they gotta eat.

As for the Keystone pipeline....it was never intended to supply oil for domestic use. It would have supplied tar sand crude to oil refineries on the gulf coast to be shipped out of the country.

Yeah....this all sucks. But it's not the fault of our leaders, past or present. The world is fairly *frenched at the moment.

I bought some corral panels a few days ago. 149.95 each. A year ago they were 89.00 each. 5 years ago they were 40.00. Fertilizer is 3 times higher, fuel too. Cattle prices have yet to increase enough to compensate.

Companies are raking in record profits, yet they are still raising prices. That's just greed. Now they are raising prices to add even more pain when they shouldn't be profiteering at a time like this.

Be pissed my friends.....but be pissed at the right people.
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Compared to Europe, we have cheap fuel prices even now. But it still hurts. Fuel ain't the thing I'm really worried about though.

Fertilizer.

Russia and Belarus produce 35% of the world's supply of potash. And they will not be selling it for the foreseeable future. Also, China decided in October to stop exporting all fertilizer. As fertilizer prices increase, and supply dwindles, food prices will spike. Folks on fixed income will be hit hard by this. They can drive less....but they gotta eat.

As for the Keystone pipeline....it was never intended to supply oil for domestic use. It would have supplied tar sand crude to oil refineries on the gulf coast to be shipped out of the country.

Yeah....this all sucks. But it's not the fault of our leaders, past or present....Republican or Democrat. The world is fairly *frenched at the moment.

I bought some corral panels a few days ago. 149.95 each. A year ago they were 89.00 each. 5 years ago they were 40.00. Fertilizer is 3 times higher, fuel too. Cattle prices have yet to increase enough to compensate.

Companies are raking in record profits, yet they are still raising prices. That's just greed. Now they are raising prices to add even more pain when they shouldn't be profiteering at a time like this.

Be pissed my friends.....but be pissed at the right people.
i still say gitmo vacation for them
what the green people want is not viable because of technology
but yet they are whos voices get heard
hang a few pieces of *s-word at gitmo and it will be better
america doesnt need everything imported
what did they do before the big trade *s-word started ?
 

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what the green people want is not viable because of technology

I agree. The tech is not up to it yet by a long shot.

america doesnt need everything imported
what did they do before the big trade *s-word started ?

When I was a young man everything was made in America. So why the push to move manufacturing out of country? Greed.

Now that we have existed for few generations without people having to actually work to eat.....bringing manufacturing back would be a disaster. Can you imagine these lazy mfers breaking a sweat? Who is gonna man the presses? They all work at Starbucks and McDonalds.
 

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I agree. The tech is not up to it yet by a long shot.



When I was a young man everything was made in America. So why the push to move manufacturing out of country? Greed.

Now that we have existed for few generations without people having to actually work to eat.....bringing manufacturing back would be a disaster. Can you imagine these lazy mfers breaking a sweat? Who is gonna man the presses? They all work at Starbucks and McDonalds.
Speaking of old Mickey D's that place is far from cheap these days! I hadn't been to one in quite some time, I got 2 sausage egg McMuffin meals one for me one for the Mrs and it was $20! I couldnt believe it.
 

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I agree. The tech is not up to it yet by a long shot.



When I was a young man everything was made in America. So why the push to move manufacturing out of country? Greed.

Now that we have existed for few generations without people having to actually work to eat.....bringing manufacturing back would be a disaster. Can you imagine these lazy mfers breaking a sweat? Who is gonna man the presses? They all work at Starbucks and McDonalds.
there is the problem
too many pussified people parents that didnt make their kids do any kind of work
let them sit in front of a tv screen just so they didnt have to take care of their kids
 

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there is the problem
too many pussified people parents that didnt make their kids do any kind of work
let them sit in front of a tv screen just so they didnt have to take care of their kids
People are slowly being phased out of manufacturing now. The problem is, the vast majority of engineers coming out of school are responsible for creating the automation that is to replace them. They are not up to it. Not at all. So I guess maybe it's not a problem. Sure keeps my job fixing all of it secure though!
 

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just put fuel in blue truck
Cheapest place Friday was 3.79 today that place is 4.79
One place in town is 4.99
I got it at the place that was 3.99 last week for 4.69 today

*f-word this *B-S....

I just filled up diesel,$4.14. [emoji2959]


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there is the problem
too many pussified people parents that didnt make their kids do any kind of work
let them sit in front of a tv screen just so they didnt have to take care of their kids

Spot on.

My brother is a senior vice president for a big manufacturing company. He tells me that robotics will wind up taking over the jobs in manufacturing to a much greater effect than anything else in America. Why? Because our work force is spoiled *f-wording rotten, and can't be relied on.
 

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Well the pipeline was for importing more, but there are other levers that could be pulled. There's enough energy in the ground that gas could cost a quarter a gallon. Now I don't expect that, but it could be.

But more $$ fuel gets, the more feasible the alternatives become. The people that make these decisions can afford $60/gal gas.

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Spot on.

My brother is a senior vice president for a big manufacturing company. He tells me that robotics will wind up taking over the jobs in manufacturing to a much greater effect than anything else in America. Why? Because our work force is spoiled *frenching rotten, and can't be relied on.
Plus they don't need Healthcare, get RSIs, retirement, and stuff.
 

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there is the problem
too many pussified people parents that didnt make their kids do any kind of work
let them sit in front of a tv screen just so they didnt have to take care of their kids

We were told that upcoming generations would do computer work, that was the future, then computers were put in the following year after I graduated. They said sorry you missed it. Then the shop classes were taken out in following years and the trade classes.
There's plenty of blame to go around. The parents bought into this line of crapola they were spoon fed. When any normal person could tell you computers are good at a great many things, they can't build or repair a darn thing.
I still remember laughing at the first of the new generation leaving college and selling their computer technology skills to old school money that had no idea other than to grab onto the new, dumped billions into it and watched it get pissed away by these jet setting whiz kids that had nothing close to viable to sell.
 
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