Jesse's 390---the sequel

[logger450]

That is one cover that will never clog up, isn't it? No need to buy the expensive west coast cover; all you need is a hammer.

You just cant kill a 385 Bob.

 

[logger450]

Did he get his money back?
Just saw on FB the horse's fan club said the money was returned.

Not yet and the MM top is lost

 

[Tor R]

Would you like to go to buckinstock tor?

nope, chainsaws are boring + I would get gas seeing Harv!

Does my opinion count ?

always

 

[Jesse Bills]

That's funny, cause I just checked back in to see about the refund also!

IH said it would be here Monday Tuesday at the latest I will let you know if it happens

 

[oldbitz]

@Spike60 and @Jesse Bills in the comments on the latest Plastic Ass video there is an allegation that the saw can't have been run for any length of time and that you couldn't possibly have tried to cut 3 trees down because in the pictures shown on the forum (here) there are still sharpie marks around the intake porting. So the allegation is that the whole thing is a lie and you guys are just trying to tear down a good mans reputation etc etc. I haven't responded to that part of the idiots argument but I should, as if it was as he claimed "Sharpie Marks" then his beloved plastic ass didn't test run the saw through a few heat cycles as any halfway competent builder would before shipping it back. And @logger450 the same person making the allegations doesn't miss taking a swipe at you either. I have copied and pasted below what was said it's from a YT called kord325.

You obviously haven't examined all of the evidence clearly enough. There is tons of inconsistencies in all of their stories on the forums, it all started out as one thing and it ended with the whole bottom end being replaced? So Jessie's friend sold him a worn out saw? He's not a very good friend then, not to mention they claim to have run the saw and cut 3 trees down with it but yet there is sharpie on the intake that would wash off easily with gasoline? Not to mention the squish they measured has changed about 3 times.

 

[logger450]

Nope.



395XP, or 372XP OE ???



Yep.



Here's my thinking on it Dewayne.

There are a lot of people who have said they enjoy watching his videos, and have learned from them.

We have been slandered as a group by one of the people he recommends on his channel. So....we can do one of two things. We can continue to post negative stuff about the guy who has been running us down, or we can rise above that and do something better.

I'm willing to do the better.

I can provide a new 372OE ported, shipped, and outfitted with the HD filter, and west coast spikes for about 800.00

Who's in?

The only problem with this is if BBR and Iron Junk do use each other to make good money on You tube they could do something to your saw before making a video of it.

 

[Woodaddict]

I started porting saws for 125.00 each. I get 385.00 now.

I've slowly raised my prices over ten years. Many people have told me that if I was always a couple of months behind, I wasn't charging enough.

I understand the axe pricing.

I bought an axe from him a few years ago, I figured it would be a way to repay him for showing all his tricks of the trade.
He said a few videos ago that he was raising his prices to slow down the orders because it was never meant to be a full time job.

 

[oldbitz]

I bought an axe from him a few years ago, I figured it would be a way to repay him for showing all his tricks of the trade.
He said a few videos ago that he was raising his prices to slow down the orders because it was never meant to be a full time job.

If it's not a rude question what did that set you back as I got a price from BBR for an axe a while back that made me nearly choke. I was quoted $350 delivered to Australia.

 

[gyp69]

Be a good test for BBR s' character
Might be the plane ticket you offered IH be diverted to BBR.
What kind of results would be hard to predict but he would get a feel for a PORTED SAW (several of 'em)
If he is "Normal" like us he couldn't help but Jabber all about his enlightening experience. Might change some of his Uch TUBE shinannigans .
Just a Thought -- like a fart, No one would notice it If I didn't put it out there.

Mr junk,I don’t know anything about this ironhorse clown & I watch very little YouTube however buckin has a personal relationship with Bob Walker. I am guessing he has had a feel for PORTED SAWS for many years, he seems to be a pretty decent faller in a place where very large firs are common! By the way there are many very good saw builders in Wa,Or,Id. and a few excellent ones they build saws for loggers and fallers primarily and none of them are on saw forums.There are great builders on this forum as well I’m sure I’m just saying ..

 

[beaglebriar]

@Spike60 and @Jesse Bills in the comments on the latest Plastic Ass video there is an allegation that the saw can't have been run for any length of time and that you couldn't possibly have tried to cut 3 trees down because in the pictures shown on the forum (here) there are still sharpie marks around the intake porting. So the allegation is that the whole thing is a lie and you guys are just trying to tear down a good mans reputation etc etc. I haven't responded to that part of the idiots argument but I should, as if it was as he claimed "Sharpie Marks" then his beloved plastic ass didn't test run the saw through a few heat cycles as any halfway competent builder would before shipping it back. And @logger450 the same person making the allegations doesn't miss taking a swipe at you either. I have copied and pasted below what was said it's from a YT called kord325.

You obviously haven't examined all of the evidence clearly enough. There is tons of inconsistencies in all of their stories on the forums, it all started out as one thing and it ended with the whole bottom end being replaced? So Jessie's friend sold him a worn out saw? He's not a very good friend then, not to mention they claim to have run the saw and cut 3 trees down with it but yet there is sharpie on the intake that would wash off easily with gasoline? Not to mention the squish they measured has changed about 3 times.

I don't know what other guys do but I give any cylinder I port a good squirt of brake parts cleaner, a quick hone with Scotch Brite and a thorough bath in the kitchen sink. Needless to say there's no sharpie marks left anywhere when it goes back together.

 

[Nathan lassley]

@Spike60 and @Jesse Bills in the comments on the latest Plastic Ass video there is an allegation that the saw can't have been run for any length of time and that you couldn't possibly have tried to cut 3 trees down because in the pictures shown on the forum (here) there are still sharpie marks around the intake porting. So the allegation is that the whole thing is a lie and you guys are just trying to tear down a good mans reputation etc etc. I haven't responded to that part of the idiots argument but I should, as if it was as he claimed "Sharpie Marks" then his beloved plastic ass didn't test run the saw through a few heat cycles as any halfway competent builder would before shipping it back. And @logger450 the same person making the allegations doesn't miss taking a swipe at you either. I have copied and pasted below what was said it's from a YT called kord325.

You obviously haven't examined all of the evidence clearly enough. There is tons of inconsistencies in all of their stories on the forums, it all started out as one thing and it ended with the whole bottom end being replaced? So Jessie's friend sold him a worn out saw? He's not a very good friend then, not to mention they claim to have run the saw and cut 3 trees down with it but yet there is sharpie on the intake that would wash off easily with gasoline? Not to mention the squish they measured has changed about 3 times.

Must be one of those new aluminum sharpies.

 

[Mastermind]

Just checking in to see if Jessie got his money back??

If y'all wanna send BBR a saw count me out!!

I'm all for helping a working man in need but I don't give two fúcks what anyone says or thinks about this forum or the guys that make it what is. Nor do I care to change their minds, screw them and the iron horse they rode in on.

I think you are in the majority.

And I'm cool with that.

The whole mess has given me gas. Well, I've always got gas, but not usually this bad.

 

[Mattyo]

Don't the youtubers have a term for this? Something like "climbers" where they bounce around getting subs from each other's channels in order to boost their own sub numbers? I think that was what was behind Ironwhores doing his "shout out" to Walt. Poach each other's subs to get the numbers up? Got to hand it to Walt though, cause to my knowledge he's never ended a video with one of those pathetic "be sure to subscribe" pleas at the end. Matty, you know how this stuff works. What's up with this?

Maybe what we are seeing with BBR is what we used to call "going commercial". Starts out as something fun and then it becomes all about growing the channel because..........well it's obvious; now we can make some money. Becomes a business, which isn't bad in and of itself. But there is a point where success will test the character of the individual involved. Where the temptation for the quick buck shoots a hole in whatever standards that person thought he had. That's where ya get $350 axe handles and other celebrity worship items. (Targeted towards those who latch on to someone elses celebrity to compensate for their own low self esteem IMO)

It's awful hard to even casually follow this Ironwhores story without smelling a rat, so for BBR to stand by his fellow youtuber, I'd have to say he's failing the character test. But he doesn't care as long as the money keeps coming in.

I'm not sure exactly what the question is Bob, but the number of subs does not necessarily indicate income level. monthly ad revenue is generated by clicks on ads, not on vids (as far as I know). BUT, the more subs you have, the more folks of a "focused" following you have an the more likely someone is to see a particular ad when you post of a vid. Its truly brilliant concept because theoretically all the subs are folks that like what the youtuber likes. Its all just much more focused marketing. television is much more like using a shotgun blast, youtube is more like a scalpel. and yes, subs from one channel may like a similar one. The beauty is, none are identical. I don't see the harm in gently reminding people to subscribe, but after a while it gets tiresome. I just keep trying to be super boring and be myself. Keeps me plenty busy. Walt too I'm sure. I'm running around like mad these days trying to keep up with my measely 7.7k subs. i can't image 70k, or 700k subs. I'd have to stop doing dentistry.


with regards to sending a saw to BBR, i'd say that the goal of that idea needs to be well defined. if the goal is to generate good will towards bbr from forum guys .. it may or may not meet that goal

if the goal is for forum guys to stand behind their leader, then that is important. so overall I think its important to stand up for whats right, and it seems to be like MM is in the right here. if there is an opportunity to pitch in support then thats important to do. I'll put my money where my mouth is, so I'm in if thats the direction this goes.

But truthfully, if BBR was really curious, I don't think it'd be a stretch for him to buy a MM saw himself. Which, if you think about it, its kinda his responsibility. He's been giving IH the pump, so now that IH has been called out, its time for him to truly discover if he's backed the right guy or not. The only way to do that, its to get a properly done saw, of his own volition and curiosity.

But thats unlikely

 

[Woodaddict]

If it's not a rude question what did that set you back as I got a price from BBR for an axe a while back that made me nearly choke. I was quoted $350 delivered to Australia.

Yes that's what I paid, it was my way of paying for the knowledge.

 

[traffic903]

I think you are in the majority.

And I'm cool with that.

The whole mess has given me gas. Well, I've always got gas, but not usually this bad.

Randy you are a man of integrity. You have compassion and empathy for others. You clearly feel strongly about things also. This whole ordeal has obviously had a negative impact on you and you don't deserve, nor are you to blame for, that. In my opinion, sending a saw to BBR is not going to change anything. You won't gain out of it in any way, and I know you aren't looking to gain, and you CERTAINLY don't need the approval of someone else to justify your position in this. You did what every "leader" (whether you like to acknowledge that or not) should do. You stood up for the little guy. Hold your head high. You do not need to prove anything else to anybody.

 

[USMC615]

im done with this thread
its very clear that the nahsayers havent been screwed over or reputation tarnished because of some asswipe
i caught alot of hell over the jms *B-S.... and they know and i remember everyone of them suckpumps that gave me hell
i didnt get anything free and didnt want anything free i sent my saw to @tree monkey along with parts and money to have it redone

as far as the potmetalpony i saw the video of his work over 5 months ago and called him out on it and yet others here such as @Marshy and @Kensie1988 have pretty much threw the guy down and blowed him
im sure they will enjoy sucking on him more but the people that are blind to what it is supposed to look like and run after are the ones needing a wake up call
most im sure found their way from bbr to the potmetalpony from videos on youtube
whatever you decide i dont care
im just glad jessie has a saw in usable condition not the piece of *s-word he was given back by the Dallplucker potmetalpony

How da hell did I miss this? Well allow me to be the first...Bye Dallicia!

 

[Farmchuck]

The only problem with this is if BBR and Iron Junk do use each other to make good money on You tube they could do something to your saw before making a video of it.

This is what I was thinking. It could come back to haunt us & cause more headaches for Randy.

 

[huskyboy]

I say Randy should port a 48 mm 365 special jug... real extra spicey... then pop a 372 sticker on the saw so when he asks who built it and why it’s faster than all his IH saws... we tell him oh that’s just a little old 365, wait till you see how a real ported 372 runs. Rubs the dirt in a bit. Lol

 

[Stump Shot]

@Spike60 and @Jesse Bills in the comments on the latest Plastic Ass video there is an allegation that the saw can't have been run for any length of time and that you couldn't possibly have tried to cut 3 trees down because in the pictures shown on the forum (here) there are still sharpie marks around the intake porting. So the allegation is that the whole thing is a lie and you guys are just trying to tear down a good mans reputation etc etc. I haven't responded to that part of the idiots argument but I should, as if it was as he claimed "Sharpie Marks" then his beloved plastic ass didn't test run the saw through a few heat cycles as any halfway competent builder would before shipping it back. And @logger450 the same person making the allegations doesn't miss taking a swipe at you either. I have copied and pasted below what was said it's from a YT called kord325.

You obviously haven't examined all of the evidence clearly enough. There is tons of inconsistencies in all of their stories on the forums, it all started out as one thing and it ended with the whole bottom end being replaced? So Jessie's friend sold him a worn out saw? He's not a very good friend then, not to mention they claim to have run the saw and cut 3 trees down with it but yet there is sharpie on the intake that would wash off easily with gasoline? Not to mention the squish they measured has changed about 3 times.

Pffft, Clearly, if they're not on the ball enough to catch all the BS in his vidja's, then surely this should automatically disqualify them from being any kind of chainsaw CSI detective with any kind of credibility at all. And trying to come up with some technicality, like because the squish clearance was misquoted, whether it was .040", .042" or .045" don't make no difference, take your pick, they're all way too much for a $600 custom saw build, period. Also pointing things out is not tearing someone down, he did this to himself and then tried to deflect his troubles onto others. But we all know that.

 

[Spike60]

@Spike60 and @Jesse Bills in the comments on the latest Plastic Ass video there is an allegation that the saw can't have been run for any length of time and that you couldn't possibly have tried to cut 3 trees down because in the pictures shown on the forum (here) there are still sharpie marks around the intake porting. So the allegation is that the whole thing is a lie and you guys are just trying to tear down a good mans reputation etc etc. I haven't responded to that part of the idiots argument but I should, as if it was as he claimed "Sharpie Marks" then his beloved plastic ass didn't test run the saw through a few heat cycles as any halfway competent builder would before shipping it back. And @logger450 the same person making the allegations doesn't miss taking a swipe at you either. I have copied and pasted below what was said it's from a YT called kord325.

You obviously haven't examined all of the evidence clearly enough. There is tons of inconsistencies in all of their stories on the forums, it all started out as one thing and it ended with the whole bottom end being replaced? So Jessie's friend sold him a worn out saw? He's not a very good friend then, not to mention they claim to have run the saw and cut 3 trees down with it but yet there is sharpie on the intake that would wash off easily with gasoline? Not to mention the squish they measured has changed about 3 times.

Whole lotta comments from a whole lotta guys over there. Problem is that it becomes logistically impossible to engage in a dialog with 130 different people. So, responding to each and every one's fantasy isn't something that we need to waste any energy on. That guy playing "gott'cha!" with the squish being .041 or .040 like he's a $500 and hour defense lawyer doesn't warrant a response by anyone here. We "Claim" to have run the saw. Insinuating the bottom end was worn out. Sharpie marks? Well, not after Ironwhores did the old spit and polish on the piston and cylinder! All speculation and wild guessing. No need to pay any attention to valueless comments like that.