Gun range 2022,2023,2024,2025

[Czed]

Stoeger STR-9 9mm 4.17ʺ | Semi-Auto Handguns | KYGUNCO

Stoeger brings an earned reputation for durable, dependable shotguns to the world of semiautomatic pistols with the new STR-9.

www.kygunco.com

Cheap

 

[SOS Ridgerider]

Stoeger STR-9 9mm 4.17ʺ | Semi-Auto Handguns | KYGUNCO

Stoeger brings an earned reputation for durable, dependable shotguns to the world of semiautomatic pistols with the new STR-9.

www.kygunco.com

Cheap

I have the 4.7" Optics ready version of this gun. I've been very happy with it. Not a single issue so far, and for the money I think it's a great gun.

 

[Czed]

Really liking the 22x
Over 300 through it very accurate more accurate than I am
Great trigger and ergos
Those howard leight earmuffs are very good.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Is the 22X striker fired like the centerfire M&P? The original M&P .22 looks like the centerfire but is hammer fired and mechanically quite different.

 

[Czed]

Is the 22X striker fired like the centerfire M&P? The original M&P .22 looks like the centerfire but is hammer fired and mechanically quite different.

Hammer fired with a great trigger so far it's equal if not better than my tx .22s
I was hitting the plate rack consistently at 25yds
MIght not put a dot on it.

 

[Czed]

Great deal

S&W M&P9 SHIELD PLUS 9MM TS – 6 MAGS 3.1″ BLACK BUNDLE – Good 4 Guns

g4gguns.com

Not optics ready but that doesn't matter on these I carry one just like it.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Tristar is now selling what looks like a really nice Turkish Glock 19 clone called the Apoc. Looks like you can get one for well under three bills.

APOC - TriStar Arms

AGILITY AND BALANCE FOR FAST, ACCURATE SHOTS All pistols are rigorously tested at all stages of production to ensure reliability. Introducing the APOC New for 2025! Weighing just over 25 ounces, the TriStar APOC provides familiarity and simplicity while adding modernized ergonomics and features...

www.tristararms.com

 

[Czed]

Tristar is now selling what looks like a really nice Turkish Glock 19 clone called the Apoc. Looks like you can get one for well under three bills.

APOC - TriStar Arms

AGILITY AND BALANCE FOR FAST, ACCURATE SHOTS All pistols are rigorously tested at all stages of production to ensure reliability. Introducing the APOC New for 2025! Weighing just over 25 ounces, the TriStar APOC provides familiarity and simplicity while adding modernized ergonomics and features...

www.tristararms.com

I've never seen such a copied pistol and these guys here *b-word about clone chainsaws lol
As far as I've read and watched some YouTube the rxm,derya,gforce,shadow systems and palmetto state
Have built a good reputation
For the Glock clones
I really like my glocks but prefer my rxms have no need for anymore clones
Those mec-gar 18rnd mags have been flawless
It's crazy I bought them for like 12.00
On sale.

 

[FergusonTO35]

I love the gen. 5 Glocks, the only guns they've made that I didn't feel the need to modify in some way. They are very lead bullet friendly too, of course Glock will never say that. My bone stock gen. 5 19 will keep up with my old school S&W K frame .38's in terms of accuracy with lead bullets. Supposedly, Glock is going to move all their models to the new V series which are supposed preclude the use of a full auto switch. And 15 minutes after they go on sale, somebody will 3D print a switch for those.

There is a really nice gen. 5 Glock 19 at a pawn shop near me. It's an early one made in Austria without the stoopid front slide serrations, just like my early USA made gen. 5. I may try to go make a deal on it after rifle season.

 

[Czed]

I love the gen. 5 Glocks, the only guns they've made that I didn't feel the need to modify in some way. They are very lead bullet friendly too, of course Glock will never say that. My bone stock gen. 5 19 will keep up with my old school S&W K frame .38's in terms of accuracy with lead bullets. Supposedly, Glock is going to move all their models to the new V series which are supposed preclude the use of a full auto switch. And 15 minutes after they go on sale, somebody will 3D print a switch for those.

There is a really nice gen. 5 Glock 19 at a pawn shop near me. It's an early one made in Austria without the stoopid front slide serrations, just like my early USA made gen. 5. I may try to go make a deal on it after rifle season.

Here's what I'd buy if I wasn't full up on 9mms instead of a Glock

https://grabagun.com/walther-pdp-compact-9mm-5-barrel-15-rounds-optics-ready.html

Of course Glock didn't update their tired design just internal changes
Hopefully they improved the trigger at least.
Lot's of rxms and other clones are taking their place in the market today.

 

[FergusonTO35]

We sold the PDP at the shop I used to work at. Nice gun but I can't get past the ugly sawtooth serrations on the slide. The PPQ was way better in my opinion.

 

[MS261CM]

This thread is titled "Gun Range" so...

My son recently acquired a safe and brought his firearms home (from my safe). My dad in law gave him a Winchester model 12 in 16ga and a Rem 700 in 264 Win mag. My Marine Vietnam vet brother in law gifted him a freshly re-parked and re-stocked CMP M1 Garand for his high school graduation. Why didn't I have an uncle like that? He's a busy married mechanical engineer now. It's nice to finally have room to dig in my small safe.

He had a long weekend and requested a range trip. He wanted to shoot the M1 and the 264. I generally prefer handguns for range fun and was unhappy with a recent R92 44mag purchase. I wanted to run an experiment.

We shot the R92 first. This rifle seems to have an overbored barrel and to date patterns more like a shotgun. The nominal bullet diameter for 44mag is .429 but I picked up some .431 jacketed bullets and loaded up a .429/.431 comparison. I had thought that maybe the .429 rounds were skidding past the rifling and the .431 would grab and spin. Nope. Both loads were on 8.5x11 paper at 100 yards sighted via 1moa red dot. No difference in pattern size. Bummer!

Next up my son shot the M1 Garand. Here is the bench setup:


All I had printed were 10m pistol targets and he couldn't see the aiming black at 100 yd. I found some red paper, ripped it into squares and he stapled it over the aiming blacks at the next range cold.

Seems he could see the red diamonds. His next 100 yard group through the Garand iron peep sights was this:

Keep in mind the 10m air pistol target is on 8.8x11 paper. He has shot a bit like this on prior outings. He's got quarter-inch thick glasses. I don't get it. I'm going on 71 and he's 29. Could that have anything to do with this? I don't challenge him in any of a number of things any more. He does make time for me.

We expected killer recoil from the 264 Win Mag. Truth be told the M1 was soft, The 264 Win Mag was sharp and the R92 just plain hurt. We both agreed. Weird.

I brought a couple handguns to offer an alternate experience. I thought he might have the most fun with the new Colt Anaconda 6" 44mag and a Novak reworked 1970 Colt 1911. Pics of both exist somewhere here. He shot the handguns pretty well but I somehow did a little better. I centered a full house 300gn 44mag round on an x and decided to call it a day. No pic but it did happen.