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Democrats are the only ones that try to take things away from me, raise my taxes, and make running a business difficult. It’s been that way my entire life.
Not going to get in a debate but I have yet to see any side give me a real actual tax break and if you haven’t noticed ope has gone up 3 times in the last year and change. The increase is because of global parts and the companies aren’t going to eat the extra costs so the consumer gets too. But this is all I’m going to say on the subject because they all are rich compared to me and the look only to benefit themselves and like people.
 

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Not going to get in a debate but I have yet to see any side give me a real actual tax break and if you haven’t noticed ope has gone up 3 times in the last year and change. The increase is because of global parts and the companies aren’t going to eat the extra costs so the consumer gets too. But this is all I’m going to say on the subject because they all are rich compared to me and the look only to benefit themselves and like people.
I’m not debating either. I’m just stating facts of what I’ve experienced in Virginia and what the democrats are currently trying to do. Stihl raising they’re prices three times this year is more to do with the Germans using tariffs as an excuse.
 

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Democrats are the only ones that try to take things away from me, raise my taxes, and make running a business difficult. It’s been that way my entire life.
This.
 

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I’m not debating either. I’m just stating facts of what I’ve experienced in Virginia and what the democrats are currently trying to do. Stihl raising their prices three times this year is more to do with the Germans using tariffs as an excuse.
Tariffs aren’t an excuse but an increase in cost of doing business just like someone adding more taxes to property or anything else. It’s a way of adding an additional tax to you without calling it a tax outright. If you make a manufacturers parts go up because they come from all over the world the end product gets more expensive end of story. Everyone lives in a world wide economy now and has for a long time so if we charge a company extra money on a part because it’s not made here someone gets to absorb the costs and it’s not going to be the manufacturing company. Soon enough we’ll be like Australia who’s paying 2000$ for a 60cc saw because of duties ect. No matter how bad some people want everything made in the states by us it will never happen again partly because we don’t have the materials or manpower to make it all and too many people who don’t make a lot of money have to go the cheap route when buying stuff. Is what it is and both parties are to blame. But this is my last response on this because there will be various opinions on it but definitely isn’t just one side hosing the general public.
 

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Tariffs aren’t an excuse but an increase in cost of doing business just like someone adding more taxes to property or anything else. It’s a way of adding an additional tax to you without calling it a tax outright. If you make a manufacturers parts go up because they come from all over the world the end product gets more expensive end of story. Everyone lives in a world wide economy now and has for a long time so if we charge a company extra money on a part because it’s not made here someone gets to absorb the costs and it’s not going to be the manufacturing company. Soon enough we’ll be like Australia who’s paying 2000$ for a 60cc saw because of duties ect. No matter how bad some people want everything made in the states by us it will never happen again partly because we don’t have the materials or manpower to make it all and too many people who don’t make a lot of money have to go the cheap route when buying stuff. Is what it is and both parties are to blame. But this is my last response on this because there will be various opinions on it but definitely isn’t just one side hosing the general public.
It’s certainly been one side hosing me for the last 40 years. I can tell which party was in charge just by looking at my tax returns. 🤣
 

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Both side are lying and stealing from us. They talk differently but the results from both are the same. Most just feel better because they think there team is winning. Team sport politics at its finest.

Trumps tariffs are no different then some democrat raising taxes. We are still losing.
 

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A few of the northern VA counties full of idiots have banned them. The rich liberals don’t like the noise. The proposed bill will allow jurisdictions with at least 2500 people per square mile to ban them.
The other ignorant thing they’re trying to do is require a yearly personal property tax on lawn equipment. Businesses already pay taxes on them. I guess Governor Ice Queen will send her Troopers out to check mowers since she stopped them from helping ICE catch criminals.

I have a lawn care business and this ignorance will effectively put me out of business. I guess it’s time to move to a common sense state because the northern VA transplants are doing their best to ruin this one. I’ve seen it coming for years but I hoped common sense would win, LOL.

Meanwhile, Stihl employees at the plant in Virginia Beach are probably shaking their head's in disbelief...I'm sure SC wouldn't mind a new factory. The governor is a 'cosmopolitan' dimwit. She's completely disconnected with how working people actually live.
 

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Both side are lying and stealing from us. They talk differently but the results from both are the same. Most just feel better because they think there team is winning. Team sport politics at its finest.

Trumps tariffs are no different then some democrat raising taxes. We are still losing.

That's true to a point. However, no country remains rich by shifting 1's and 0's around digital ledger sheets on Wall Street. It's increasingly hard to buy American because the 'Third Way' crowd have been deindustrializing the US for the past 30 years. You have to manufacture goods domestically to create actual middle class wealth and benefit upward mobility. The question is, do you want manufacturing back in the United States; or would you rather buy cheap garbage and float Red China's boats? It's short-term pain for long-term gain. I've been harping about this since Ross Perot talked about NAFTA and 'a giant sucking sound'. He was right. George Bush Sr and Bill Clinton were wrong.

Personally, I go out of my way to buy local and American-made whenever possible. Even if I pay more, buying local and American, employees people in MY community and helps fund local my local government. That benefits me as an individual.
 

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That's true to a point. However, no country remains rich by shifting 1's and 0's around digital ledger sheets on Wall Street. It's increasingly hard to buy American because the 'Third Way' crowd have been deindustrializing the US for the past 30 years. You have to manufacture goods domestically to create actual middle class wealth and benefit upward mobility. The question is, do you want manufacturing back in the United States; or would you rather buy cheap garbage and float Red China's boats? It's short-term pain for long-term gain. I've been harping about this since Ross Perot talked about NAFTA and 'a giant sucking sound'. He was right. George Bush Sr and Bill Clinton were wrong.

Personally, I go out of my way to buy local and American-made whenever possible. Even if I pay more, buying local and American, employees people in MY community and helps fund local my local government. That benefits me as an individual.
That’s fine unfortunately not many are willing to spend the money and or can afford to. Right now unless everyone switch to USA made manufacturing isn’t coming back and even if it did we don’t have enough young people that want to that kind of work no matter what you pay them. 90% of people won’t spend good money for a tool they’re only going to use a couple times, unfortunately we’re far beyond the making everything in our country for ourselves weather you like it or not the world is too interconnected now.
 

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because the 'Third Way' crowd have been deindustrializing the US for the past 30 years.
Its closer to 40-50 yrs- Big corporations were in full swing by the late 70's selling out America to make a profit by eliminating the american workforce-shipping our jobs overseas to save $ on cheaper wages. Myself, its always amazed me how stupid and foolish americans are to let so many things happen. If companies shipped jobs overseas- the people who own the businesses should be forced to leave also
 

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Its closer to 40-50 yrs- Big corporations were in full swing by the late 70's selling out America to make a profit by eliminating the american workforce-shipping our jobs overseas to save $ on cheaper wages. Myself, its always amazed me how stupid and foolish americans are to let so many things happen. If companies shipped jobs overseas- the people who own the businesses should be forced to leave also
Yep. Lack of affordability was remedied with imports/job exports and raised credit limits, not wage increases.
 
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