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  1. WSE15

    WSE15 Well-Known OPE Member

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    Got in my first CS-4510 the other day. Although I've been an Echo dealer for going on 10 years now and I absolutely love their products namely for their quality I've gotta be honest and tell you guys that I was 75% disappointed with this saw. That is, of course, UNTIL I RAN IT!!

    First impressions: Strato-engine - which let's face it Echo's first attempt at a strato on the 550p was a real disappointment!

    11 pounds - That's a full pound heavier than a 501p or a 490

    Reduced effort starter - They work fine but why not just a compression release!? Reduced effort starters are bulky and I just don't like the feel of them. Although I know many guys do like them.

    Plastic casing - Part of my issue with this saw before I even touched one was that I knew it was replacing the metal cased CS-450p which I personally own and have sold to many farmers for fencing and firewood guys as a rock solid dependable firewood saw. The 450p was nearly indestructible and I hated to think it was being replaced by a saw with a plastic case.

    Air Filter design - This I did really like. Super slick easy access filter. Very cutting edge looking too!

    Spring loaded kill switch - Also like this. No more trying to start with the switch off lol!

    Okay now the fun part: I gassed her up gave the rope 3 pulls and it was purring like a kitten. I was instantly impressed! Engine has a real nice throaty sound. Runs super smooth. Has quick acceleration and just an all around great feel. I set the carb and took it out back to cut on a locust tree behind the shop. I honestly can't say that it would lag behind a 501p. I'd take if over a 490 any day of the week! Really solid power for a 45cc saw. I'll try to get some video up for you guys sometime soon! I think these are going to be a real good seller!

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    I'm gonna stop by and try one out next time I'm in town, Jeff!
    Interesting new saw.
     
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    The weight is kind of disappointing.

    Seems like a solid start.

    For grins and giggles msrp?
     
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    $329 I believe is the MSRP
     
  5. WSE15

    WSE15 Well-Known OPE Member

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    Correct
     
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    backhoelover SERVICE MANUAL MASTER GoldMember

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    Can u get a pic of the carbs limiters? I bought the puller and it look Hugh as hell for a limited cap puller

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    Any video yet?
     
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    CoreyB Yep I am your neighborhood coffee man

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    Ya! What he said!
     
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    Sorry guys sold the only one I ordered on my spring order the day after I posted this. Next time I get one in I'll try to get some video. At that time the limiter cap tool was still on backorder when I tried ordering one. Luckily the one I got was tuned correctly out of the box. They were different from any I have seen. Service manual is still not up on the tech site yet either.
     
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    This is from the 2018 carb manual
     
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    The 4510 I recently got has the new limiter caps, requiring the use of the 91157 tool. The D of the needles, however, is too small for the Large D tool, 91085. There is conveniently a slot in which a small screwdriver will fit, which I always carry any how, but does anyone know the part number for the Echo tool that will fit the D on this? Is it 91187, or. . . ?
     
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    I got this 500$ Echo cs-4510 not long ago. It started well when new, and it seems that each time it becomes more and more difficult to start it. It has less than 4 hours of usage on it and now it is impossible to start it. The fuel goes to the cylinder, the fuel is less than a month old and there is a spark. I do not know what is the issue but it is unacceptable. And from what I see on internet this problem is common with that model.

    I have had cheap Homelite saws in the past, sitting there with old fuel for a couple of years with being used and they could be started with a few cranks only. This Echo looks cheap and seems to be quite cheap indeed: definitely not worth 500$. This is the first time I buy an Echo and it is surely the last. I find it unacceptable that companies would make such junk. Did anybody have the same issue with this model, and what was the source of the problem?

    I definitely do not recommend buying this saw.
     
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    What did your dealer say?

    Did you take it to them under warranty yet?

    Let's slow down and figure this out before you just say all echo equipment is junk.
     
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    CR888 Here For The Long Haul!

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    Just bare in mind quite a few folk around here know more about saws the Einstein knew about his relatively theory. So a post like yours instantly makes people question whether the problem here is the saw or the user.

    PS I don't recommend 2 y/o gas FWIW.
     
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    CR888 Here For The Long Haul!

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    Pull the muffler off and see if you siezed it...gooo on.
     
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    Yep, that is what happens, he said it got worse every start,
    yet he kept on starting instead of investigating.

    Anyone else hear of trouble with this model.
    All I can tell you is I had a CS352 and when new that thing got hot,
    I didn't push it, and it broke in to be a different saw, had I pushed it I imagine
    it would of got harder to start too, had three 500P models, great going saws.
     
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