Defective Champion Spark Plug

[stihl here]

Brand new, right out of the box. Seems to me like the gap on the top one is a little wide.

 

[Motorka]

low quality control ? I use only denso and ngk.... made in japan.

 

[Czed]

I've had 2 saws in my shop with the insulator's broke loose on champion spark plugs
And have heard from a few shops they've had saws in with the same problem.
Denso is all I use
Ngk sucks just like champion now.

 

[Squareground3691]

low quality control ? I use only denso and ngk.... made in japan.

Even NGK are losing some of their there quality, not like the old stuff, I’ve been going to Denso more often lately, I like them ,Yup someone in the QC department was on break,

 

[Mad Professor]

Do the Chi-Coms make Champions now?

 

[Coupe]

I use Bosch as a guy I know travelled selling them and when finnished up with
them he still had a heap of stock left so brought a heap of him. But as far as champion
go they have the 5 letter word on them (china) and once they started being built there
have progressively got worse. I have never seen two yet come out of the packet
set at 20 thou and a prone to the insulators falling off. And yes NGK plugs are not
what they used to be either. Nikkon Denso have always been good plugs but we
struggle to get them here in New Zealand.

 

[Squareground3691]

I use Bosch as I guy I know travelled selling them and when finnished up wiyh
them he still had a heap of wtock left so brought a heap of him. But as far as champion
go they have the 5 letter word on them

Bosch are good if you get the German made , but China stuff not so good ,

 

[64poncho]

Brand new, right out of the box. Seems to me like the gap on the top one is a little wide.

You could use it to check spark output on coils.

 

[Coupe]

Do the Chi-Coms make Champions now?

Yes most certainly do.

 

[Czed]

Do the Chi-Coms make Champions now?

They are made in serveral countries now
My friends father travelled the world helping set up factories in India

Google Search

 

[stihl here]

Do the Chi-Coms make Champions now?

Idk, the box said USA.

 

[Mad Professor]

Bosch are good if you get the German made , but China stuff not so good ,

I've got a stash!

 

[r7000]

 

[EFSM]

I know it seems fashionable to hate on NGK, but we have been using them at our shop for many years without trouble; we get them through our regular verified suppliers. I have seen no change through the recent brand transition. However, one of our techs had a couple of NGK's break in a dirt bike (I suppose he got the cheapest deal online). I wonder how many failed NGK plugs are fake.
https://www.ngkntk.com/newsroom/blog/emea/fake-or-not/

 

[Squareground3691]

I know it seems fashionable to hate on NGK, but we have been using them at our shop for many years without trouble; we get them through our regular verified suppliers. I have seen no change through the recent brand transition. However, one of our techs had a couple of NGK's break in a dirt bike (I suppose he got the cheapest deal online). I wonder how many failed NGK plugs are fake.
https://www.ngkntk.com/newsroom/blog/emea/fake-or-not/

Tree monkey made a video talking about NGK counterfeits and such going around, I’ve been using Denso over NGK because of quality over the past few years and have been liking them a good bit ,

 

[Chainmale]

I know it seems fashionable to hate on NGK, but we have been using them at our shop for many years without trouble; we get them through our regular verified suppliers. I have seen no change through the recent brand transition. However, one of our techs had a couple of NGK's break in a dirt bike (I suppose he got the cheapest deal online). I wonder how many failed NGK plugs are fake.
https://www.ngkntk.com/newsroom/blog/emea/fake-or-not/

Years ago, when I was doing alot of riding/racing with my KX250, NGK were the plugs that gave me the least problems. Champion cost more than Bosch and NGK and had the most problems with.

 

[EFSM]

I’ve been using Denso over NGK because of quality over the past few years and have been liking them a good bit

Denso plugs are top notch, we just can't get them at wholesale prices.

 

[Woodtroll]

Hopefully this won't derail this thread too far, but I've been unable to find a reference for a Denso plug that's a direct match for the BPMR8Y plugs that Echo uses, even on Denso's cross-reference page. Does anyone know of a suitable match?

Thank you.

 

[hacskaroly]

Hopefully this won't derail this thread too far, but I've been unable to find a reference for a Denso plug that's a direct match for the BPMR8Y plugs that Echo uses, even on Denso's cross-reference page. Does anyone know of a suitable match?

Looking at a couple of sites, they show that the Denso match for a BPMR8Y will be the W24MPR-U.

 

[EFSM]

BPMR8Y plugs that Echo uses

I use BPM8Y on almost all Echo's. The R's are specified as Canadian, I suppose because of radio interference laws, but some of the trimmers don't run as well on resistors as non-resistors.