Chemically Wet

[OnlyStihl]

See this all the time on Hwy Web Cams. I finally looked it up. It is a salt solution sprayed on the ground to speed up the melting of snow and ice. Described as a brine, and when driven over is pressure blasted into all nooks and crannies of your truck's underbelly. Nothing is spared a generous coating of this very corrosive brine mixture. It is no wonder cars have all kinds of slow developed accumulated electrical and mechanical issues.

Solution, rinse with a hose after every drive during wintery conditions. Who does that?

A rust preventative coating. I'm skeptical of that being effective. And it sounds costly to do right, requiring a lift of some sorts.

I'm considering this --> (slowly drive over this a few times before putting away into the garage).

 

[cuinrearview]

They use salt here. When mixed with melted snow or ice, it's the same thing.

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[Wilhelm]

Salt here too.
And not only on ice and freezing temperatures.
Once the roads dry they are white from all the salt.
Cars get a whole body salt layer on them.

 

[OnlyStihl]

Salt here too.
And not only on ice and freezing temperatures.
Once the roads dry they are white from all the salt.
Cars get a whole body salt layer on them.

I suppose better than getting into an accident and dying, but a better solution is out there. Part of the reason I sold my FJ was due to the rust on the underside of the Toyota. I've seen worse, but this was bad enough, and only getting worse, AND I avoid doing a lot of driving in the winter. Still any driving is more than enough to start the process of deterioration of your costly purchase.

 

[Wilhelm]

I suppose better than getting into an accident and dying, but a better solution is out there. ....

It is called dedicated winter tires.
The Swiss are even allowed to ride on studded winter tires during a specified winter period.

In Croatia winter tires (or summer tires with a minimum of 4mm thread dept, and snow chains on board) are MANDATORY for personal vehicles during a specified period regardless of road conditions, non-compliance results in notable fines.
Yet most vehicles/owners don't have any and the police is not actively checking.
I say let the roads snow in, lets see who ended up in the ditch and whether or not their vehicle was winter proofed!

Ice is a different story, I admit that.
Although, according to Google road salt struggles with it already at 15°F, and becomes ineffective below -6°F.

 

[OnlyStihl]

It is called dedicated winter tires.
The Swiss are even allowed to ride on studded winter tires during a specified winter period.

In Croatia winter tires (or summer tires with a minimum of 4mm thread dept, and snow chains on board) are MANDATORY for personal vehicles during a specified period irregardless of road conditions, non-compliance results in notable fines.
Yet most vehicles/owners don't have any and the police is not actively checking.
I say let the roads snow in, lets see who ended up in the ditch and whether or not their vehicle was winter proofed!

Ice is a different story, I admit that.
Although, according to Google road salt struggles with it already at 15°F, and becomes ineffective below -6°F.

There is also Slow the F'Down. And yup, hard ice is a different animal. I run AT tires and a few years back had difficult driving on my own flat driveway. That was a first for me.

I've been looking at and considering doing my own studded tires. I do something similar on the bottom of my boots and can run across ice with a few studs screwed into the soles.

 

[Wilhelm]

This was this morning, about 4" with snow sludge on the bottom from when last nights heavy rain turned into snow.
I cleaned this much, then had to go to town - got down and back up loaded with 200kg of grain/wheats no problem.


Also did some aggressive acceleration & deceleration, and slalom turns with throttle blips to get a feel for the driving conditions and tire grip.
My winter tire set is getting a little bit less grippy with every season I drive them, so getting a feel for them under controlled conditions (no one else being on the road) is not such a bad idea.

We are supposed to get some more snow this weekend, I may have to go on a joyride.

 

[Wilhelm]

There is also Slow the F'Down. And yup, hard ice is a different animal. I run AT tires and a few years back had difficult driving on my own flat driveway. That was a first for me.

I've been looking at and considering doing my own studded tires. I do something similar on the bottom of my boots and can run across ice with a few studs screwed into the soles.

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That seems fairly affordable, for 50 studs anyway.

I was playing with the thought of buying OEM studded tires from Continental.
But our winters have been so mild this past decade that it'd make no sense.

 

[Wilhelm]

Ash is Your friend for iced up driveways.
It is grainy/grippy, and it is acidic promoting ice melting.
It also attracts sunlight which again melts the ice.

Just be sure there are no nails or screws in the ash.
You want it to be from burnt clean wood.

 

[Sloughfoot]

For about 6 years I lived in a place that salted roads before every snow forecast( 5 or 10 times a winter). Got through it with zero corrosion thanks to this stuff.

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[EFSM]

For about 6 years I lived in a place that salted roads before every snow forecast( 5 or 10 times a winter). Got through it with zero corrosion thanks to this stuff.

Fluid Film Rust and Corrosion Preventative and Lubricant 11.75oz

Shop for Fluid Film Rust and Corrosion Preventative and Lubricant 11.75oz with confidence at AutoZone.com. Parts are just part of what we do. Get yours online today and pick up in store.

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Sheep snot FTW!

 

[Yukon Stihl]

Get Blizzak tires they are the best I have found
Living here in 5-6 months of all kinds of winter
Got to remove them as soon as it starts getting warm or they disappear.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

It is possible to use calcium or manganese type snow melt ,but it's expensive which is why most places don't use it.
I worked at a University for 10yrs and those products were used on steps and entry ways because you don't track salt in the building and it works well below-20.
Towns in Pennsylvania that have rivers dump into the Chesapeake bay have to use sand on the roads.

 

[EFSM]

It is possible to use calcium or manganese type snow melt ,but it's expensive which is why most places don't use it.

Illinois uses calcium pretty extensively. Sometimes they are out spreading a brine in March when it’s forecast to get down to 40* (I assume they’re trying to use up their quota for the year). They apparently use both a salt and a calcium brine. Maybe @Bill G can chime in.
Of course the cost is no issue for Illinois. You can always borrow more money, right?

 

[OnlyStihl]

There is no escaping... If I make it alive one way, will I destroy my new Ram pickup on the return trip?



A neighbor called the other day to ask if I wanted 30lbs of roasted coffee beans. I do but do I want to drive over this sheit for some beans. Hoping for a break in the weather and some drying of the Hwy.

 

[Wilhelm]

Get Blizzak tires they are the best I have found
Living here in 5-6 months of all kinds of winter
Got to remove them as soon as it starts getting warm or they disappear.

I got Continental WinterContact on two family vehicles.
Very good winter grip, will buy them again!

It is possible to use calcium or manganese type snow melt ,but it's expensive which is why most places don't use it.
I worked at a University for 10yrs and those products were used on steps and entry ways because you don't track salt in the building and it works well below-20.
Towns in Pennsylvania that have rivers dump into the Chesapeake bay have to use sand on the roads.

I think in some European areas salt is forbidden and they spread gravel.
As the snow & ice melts in warmer weather they broom/sweep the gravel back up, filter and wash it for reuse.

 

[DillonBuck]

Brine is not the same as salt.
PADOT says it can sit 3 days being ran over and still be effective. Even after a few light rains. Sorry guys, you ain’t washing that out of the crannies. With the systems the OEMs had in place, 25 years ago we had old cars running around that looked fine. Even though we used salt. Then they started using brine.
Now you see a nice 15 year old vehicle somewhere, then realize it is missing rockers, or cab corners.

 

[EFSM]

Brine is not the same as salt.
PADOT says it can sit 3 days being ran over and still be effective. Even after a few light rains. Sorry guys, you ain’t washing that out of the crannies. With the systems the OEMs had in place, 25 years ago we had old cars running around that looked fine. Even though we used salt. Then they started using brine.
Now you see a nice 15 year old vehicle somewhere, then realize it is missing rockers, or cab corners.

Brine by definition is a fully saturated salt solution.

 

[Sloughfoot]

You put salt down on solid ice or snow and it'll just sit there and do nothing. Brine works immediately. Here they keep the brine to a minimum and put down more sand. In the rougher conditions on major highways in the mountains don't let anyone through that doesn't have 4wd or chains. Not too many rusted out vehicles around.

 

[Yukon Stihl]

I also have a winter $hitter so I don’t care what happens to it
I would never use a new vehicle in the winter, I just don’t have that kind of money to throw away