Advise appreciated - Husky 455 Rancher

[two4spooky]

 

[dangerousatom]

Dang that barely looks like it’s been run….. just left out in the weather like a redheaded stepchild.
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[two4spooky]

And it even has good spark with that old plug. Little rust on the flywheel magnets but started sparking after about 5 pulls. Easily visible

 

[two4spooky]

Dang that barely looks like it’s been run….. just left out in the weather like a redheaded stepchild.
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Yep, spent too much time living in the truck bed

 

[dangerousatom]

Dang that barely looks like it’s been run….. just left out in the weather like a redheaded stepchild.
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Then it’s a flat surface sand down the cylinder bottom a few thousands. “Gasket Delete”. I did that to my old Husky 55 rancher, got it up to 190 psi…..what a saw It was after that!

 

[two4spooky]

A "DUH" moment. Vertical on the floor, ~20 pulls. Strong smell of gas but looks like water. And another leaf fell out from somewhere

 

[two4spooky]

Counted the pulls this time. 50 with this result.

 

[dangerousatom]

If it were me I think I’d pull the jug again and fill the crank case with kerosene. Let it sit full for a hour or so and occasionally turn over the crack a few times. Drain it and give it a slosh of denatured alcohol or even rubbing alcohol to get out the kerosene. Let it dry out n lube up the bearing then reassemble it and give it another go.

 

[Mad Professor]

Piston looks fine.

I'd be concerned with the amount of water inside if it did anything to the rod and crankshaft bearings?

Would be nice if you had a fiber optic camera to take a peek downstairs inside the cases.

Flushing with some diesel will get the water out, then some mix to coat/oil the bearings

 

[two4spooky]

I'm not interested in in rebuilding another clam-shell saw unless their is a special attachment for me like my father's(passed) 029 I used in my youth. I wish I knew how long water has been in the case. Right now I'm thinking pour oil in the cylinder and pulling the starter a bit while alternating the power heads position, left side-right side-up-down. Add fresh fuel and bar oil and see if it cranks. Let it idle, try to run it. Hopefully if the bearings are bad the crank, flywheel or PTO will fail quickly.

If it seems okay I'll buy the handle parts, bulb, carb rebuild kit and such. I really don't need another saw, seriously. Especially one not compatible with my existing bars, chains and parts. IDK. I just have no experience with water having got into the case on a saw plus no idea of length of time water was there. Water in the case seems to be really bad Ju-Ju to me. Hmmm...

 

[two4spooky]

Piston looks fine.

I'd be concerned with the amount of water inside if it did anything to the rod and crankshaft bearings?

Would be nice if you had a fiber optic camera to take a peek downstairs inside the cases.

Flushing with some diesel will get the water out, then some mix to coat/oil the bearings

Good idea. I have one of those camera deals. Not experienced with it though. Not sure if it will fit here. Try to go down the transfer ports? Good idea

 

[dangerousatom]

That much gunky oil n water in the crank . . . the bearings are shot. Nice thing about that saw from what I remember you can pop the bearings out easily and give the crank a good once over. The case is plastic and ultrasonic welded together, so there is no case splitting. It’s kind of a top-n-side load scenario for the bearings….? from what I remember.
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[Mad Professor]

Good idea. I have one of those camera deals. Not experienced with it though. Not sure if it will fit here. Try to go down the transfer ports? Good idea

With piston TDC you can pour diesel into int port to rinse case. Slosh it around, pour out int port, repeat 1-2 times. Follow with some mix to coat bearings with oil. You could do an initial rinse with alcohol.

At TDC you should be able to snake camera down through int port, at least see lower rod bearing

 

[hacskaroly]

Since you are not inclined to get into this one too much, I would go with Mad Professor's idea, rinse it out with diesel or spray a bunch of WD40 in it, swish and rinse. Do that a couple of times and then get it buttoned up and see if it fires up. If it seizes, or bearings fall apart then you can just toss the saw if you don't want to do any more on it. If it runs, then you can decide how much you want to take on. This might be a good loaner saw for friends and family and if they straight gas it or otherwise break it, you won't be out much (not like with your other prized saws)

 

[two4spooky]

Okay, my fiber optic camera is not a match here, too thick. Poured some two-stroke in, maybe enough oil to mix 5 gallons of pre-mix. Pulled it over and managed to get a face full(plus in my hair & down my shirt) of oil. Yes, I have experience at doing dumb things "Hold my beer" moment. Good thing I can still laugh at myself

 

[two4spooky]

Damn. Going to shower now

 

[Mad Professor]

Okay, my fiber optic camera is not a match here, too thick. Poured some two-stroke in, maybe enough oil to mix 5 gallons of pre-mix. Pulled it over and managed to get a face full(plus in my hair & down my shirt) of oil. Yes, I have experience at doing dumb things "Hold my beer" moment. Good thing I can still laugh at myself

You want to start rinsing with something that will mix with/dissolve the water. 2-stroke fuel won't do that. Diesel will and it's cheap. E10 gas might work somewhat. methyl- ethyl- isopropyl- Alcohol for sure.

When you pour it in just slosh it around by shaking the saw. If you pull it over it's going to shoot out the ex port or spark plug hole if it's removed. You could turn the saw over slowly.

Now you have learned something........next time wear gloves, work outside, and wear grubby clothes. Always good to have eye protection too.

 

[two4spooky]

Yeah, good advise. Both in regards to oil/alcohol mixing with water and PPE. Too bad I read it after the fact. I knew better when I pulled the rope, just got in a hurry. I will probably tinker with it again later today.

 

[Mad Professor]

Yeah, good advise. Both in regards to oil/alcohol mixing with water and PPE. Too bad I read it after the fact. I knew better when I pulled the rope, just got in a hurry. I will probably tinker with it again later today.

For a lot of cleanups I use diesel. Not running any now so keep just a 1-gal fuel can handy. For cleaning a 1-L spray bottle w/adjustable nozzle. Great to get oily stuff off saws after you get the soild stuff scraped off.

I used it last fall to clean up a mess inside a TO-30 Ferguson head that had the oil contaminated due to a blown head gasket. It was a goopy mess of oil mixed with coolant. I Washed everything up top with pushrod holes plugged, then squirted those holes down and out of the oil pan drain, and cleaned the cam/lifters on the way there. Compare before and after.

Diesel works great, it's cheap, but stinks.

 

[two4spooky]

For a lot of cleanups I use diesel. Not running any now so keep just a 1-gal fuel can handy. For cleaning a 1-L spray bottle w/adjustable nozzle. Great to get oily stuff off saws after you get the soild stuff scraped off.

I used it last fall to clean up a mess inside a TO-30 Ferguson head that had the oil contaminated due to a blown head gasket. It was a goopy mess of oil mixed with coolant. I Washed everything up top with pushrod holes plugged, then squirted those holes down and out of the oil pan drain, and cleaned the cam/lifters on the way there. Compare before and after.

Diesel works great, it's cheap, but stinks.

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Nice. I like tractors, especially the older ones. I have diesel fuel on hand. Good advise and I appreciate it.