A new chain to test! Wanna help?

[CoreyB]

 

[CoreyB]

 

[Terry Syd]

An overhead shot of the top of the cutter will give a better idea about how sharp the 'point' is on the cutter. Chisel chain comes to a real point, VP/X95 is a very broad point (semi chisel), this stuff appears to be in between the two.

 

[CoreyB]

An overhead shot of the top of the cutter will give a better idea about how sharp the 'point' is on the cutter. Chisel chain comes to a real point, VP/X95 is a very broad point (semi chisel), this stuff appears to be in between the two.

Sp33 in the middle.

 

[Chainsaw Jim]

I appreciate the pm CoreyB, I'm not interested in buying loops of chain from you under the guise of "testing". Especially when you're charging twice as much as Amazon.

 

[Terry Syd]

Hmm, it isn't apparent as I thought it would be. When you look down on a VP95 chain next to the Carlton NK it is readily apparent that the Carlton has a sharper 'point'.

 

[CoreyB]

Hmm, it isn't apparent as I thought it would be. When you look down on a VP95 chain next to the Carlton NK it is readily apparent that the Carlton has a sharper 'point'.

Do you have a # for the Carlton chain? I can try and get a loop or two

 

[Philbert]

An overhead shot of the top of the cutter will give a better idea about how sharp the 'point' is on the cutter. Chisel chain comes to a real point, VP/X95 is a very broad point (semi chisel), this stuff appears to be in between the two.

Sp33 in the middle.

One of the claims that Oregon makes about the 95TXL chain is 'sharper, out of the box performance' and 'improved grind technology'. But what about after the first time you sharpen?

Testing these chains 'new-out-of-the-b0x' is certainly fair. But so is testing the same chains after they have each been sharpened in the same manner (whatever method is used). I had some really good performance from a loop of Carlton K1NK-BL chain that I had sharpened once, compared to a new loop of Orgeon 95TXL, but, again, that was not an 'apples to cut apples' comparison.

http://www.arboristsite.com/communi...f-chain-and-speedcut-guide-bars.285694/page-5 Posts 83-85, 100, 108, etc.

http://content.yudu.com/web/y5b2/0A...h/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=#noRedirect

Philbert

 

[CoreyB]

The txl is sharpened at the factory with a sweeping head giving a non repeatable edge and you will lose some after the first sharpening. Granted this applies for the average guy who only sharpens per the guid tool or methods. I am sure a guy who hits the gullets separate and has an above average skill could get it back or even better. U think that a test after the sharpening could tell the tale.

 

[Terry Syd]

I forgot the sharpening issue. Yeah, 'out of the box' usually isn't very good. I remember when VPX first came out and they said it gave 15% faster cutting. Sounds great, I got a few loops.

I was out cutting with a sharpened VP95 until it needed changing, then I swapped to the new kid on the block the VPX. It cut as fast as the dull chain I just took off. Disappointed....

Anyway, I went back home and put the edge on it that I had been using and the chain came alive. It didn't cut any faster than the VP, but at least it wasn't slower.

 

[Terry Syd]

I had some really good performance from a loop of Carlton K1NK-BL chain

Phlbert, I recently got some loops of the newer Carlton N1NK-BL chain. The stuff appears to have harder metal than the previous N1NK chain I tried. This stuff is holding up really well in Ozzie hardwood. I'm impressed!

The N1NK-BL chain you tried, did you find that the links were harder to file?

 

[Philbert]

The N1NK-BL chain you tried, did you find that the links were harder to file?

I don't recall it being harder to sharpen. Probably ground it.

Was scrounged chain, probably made 8+ years ago? Did not have the low kickback ('BL') links, but cutters would be the same.

Philbert

 

[Terry Syd]

This stuff feels like Stihl chain to sharpen. I'll probably use a few more files than I'm used to.

I wonder how much variation exists in the same type of chain. Different manufacturers in different countries, even the same factory using different batches of metals and variation in production techniques can change things. I like this chain, but if I got some more from a different roll, would it have the same characteristics? After getting those weak loops of VPX chain I remain cautious, but how do I deal with it, purchase one loop to test it and then purchase more? Hopefully, that VPX was just a fluke.

 

[CR888]

If Corey plays around with his grinder wheel radius on the side that contacts the cutter, he could reduce the back-lean (hook) in the sideplate. Using the dressing stone too soften the arc will make the chain less grabby in hardwood and make the hook more like a factory grind. It will also allow you to go deeper with the grinder wheel without making a too aggressive side plate (a bit more like a correctly positioned file). Cool new Husky chain BTW,

 

[Philbert]

I wonder how much variation exists in the same type of chain.

Bingo!

Consistency and quality control are among the key things to look for from chain manufacturers.

Philbert