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[dustinwilt68]

What you want tickets too? I be happy to oblige.

 

[P.M.P.]

What you want tickets too? I be happy to oblige.

Op said never land ranch

Your a good guy Dustin and I'm sure this will get hashed out.

 

[2188redhead]

once I get a refund of some sort ill let u know, im almost positive you all know him

I sold this fella the saw for $300+ shipping, I disclosed that I had only ran it for a few cuts, I did replace the seals, carb kit and swapped the tank in the saw as it was very faded, I checked the piston by pulling nthe muffler, I also spoke to the owner on the phone about the saw, said it was in better shape then he expected by the pics, I offered on multiple occasions to repair anything the saw needed, even offered to send him a different saw at my cost, I have and always will stand behind anything I sell, the parts are all genuine jred/Husqvarna with the exception of the coil, the saw started and ran fine with that coil for me and it's what the saw came to me with. When the OP asked for a refund I did ask how he came to the amount, but I never once griped it was to much or said I wouldn't pay it a I simply asked for his PayPal address, after he sent me the wrong address, I got that cleared up w PayPal and got him what he asked for, I do find it odd he says it's not a 670 but has it listed on Craigslist as a 670, I get he is going by what a dealer has told him since his knowledge on this model seems limited. I didn't know this thread existed till last evening or I would have responded sooner, I work in a ER and we are being hit hard right now w covid, so maybe he started this before I could reply to his txt. IDK. But I have tried to reply as quickly as I could.

will since cat is out of the bag here,u never offered to send me another saw,u offered for me to send the saw to you for port work and you would send it back to me,then when i was happy i could pay you another 250,plus whatever the shipping is im sure,i specifically asked,and i have all texts saved,i didnt want a shelf queen,i wanted it to cut wood,as im not a collector,and i will again say if i had the oppertunity to cut with it first i would have never,never bought the saw,as for the dealer he had 3 670 champs,he pulled every one apart so i could see the difference in what it should be as apposed to what it was,as for the coil,it was a chinese coil,had u taken saw apart like u claimed,u certainly would have seen that and yeah i wanted the saw gone, thats why craigslist,but i didnt need to say it was wrong, as i was fixing it to make it right,and if u had run it like u said,u certainly would have seen oil leak,and gas leak,if u didnt i really wonder!! these r simple things,and i always turn saws on there side to see if they leak, i laid it out for you for options on the saw and u just wanted to debate it,and i clearly said i wasnt doing that,and lastly i asked for a 2188 and u just wanted to push a over priced 2166 once i said i didnt want it,the whole demeaner of the conversation changed,it was all about the money,not making anyone happy..me posting this was suggested by others and i never said it wasnt a 670, but i did early on say i saw videos of this saw back in the day and i wanted a real champ not a Frankenstein 670 and lastly i never planned on mentioning who i got it from,u refunded me and i was good with it, this matter is done as far as im concerned i never planned to beating a dead horse so to speak,but becase of how this went i wont buy anything from u again

 

[2188redhead]

Op said never land ranch

Your a good guy Dustin and I'm sure this will get hashed out.

its been hashed out,and just for record i never said he wasnt a good guy!!

 

[2188redhead]

Dustinwilt68 do I win the tickets?

you sure do,they will be as good as the saw was

 

[drf256]

I've never had any bad dealings with Dustin Wilt, and this is the first time I have EVER heard anything possibly negative about him.

 

[dustinwilt68]

I won't argue with you, but I remember the conversation differently and will leave it at that, I hope the saw serves you well for years to come. Best of luck, stay safe.

 

[P.M.P.]

I am guessing this is the same 670 that you are selling on CL for $500?

If I was a betting man I'd bet the gas cap is leaking and the oil leak is the oil pick up hose. If a guy puts a little sealant on the bottom hose prior to install and then on the top prior to installing the pump 90% of the time it works every time!
Also as mentioned above an inner and outer bar plate is a must. There is a few of us on here that have lots of parts in these series of saws if needed.

This is a good tip for others. Had a couple saws leaking oil and used permatex ultra black were you said.It fixed the leak great. One was a Makita 6401 and also did my 346.

 

[dustinwilt68]

I appreciate the kind words. I am always happy to take a saw or parts back if it doesn't meet the buyers expectations, I believe I have sold around 400 or so saws and this is the second person not to be happy, other was a ms460 that happened to have a Oregon clutch drum and not a Stihl one, full refund was issued and the matter resolved.

I've never had any bad dealings with Dustin Wilt, and this is the first time I have EVER heard anything possibly negative about him.

Just for the record, and for anyone else in the future: I’ve known Dustin for years and dealt with him numerous times on both saw parts and with complete saws. He’s never been anything less than completely honest and to my knowledge has never misrepresented details on anything he has offered for sale to anyone. I still own most of the saws and parts that I’ve gotten from him over time and wouldn’t hesitate to deal with him again.

 

[2188redhead]

Wouldn’t want to pile on someone, which will happen if you mention names. And then the finger pointing will start.

The entire thing is unclear, it depends on how the saw was portrayed to you. I don’t know anything about that model. I can tell you that certain old husky’s have NLA clutches but can be retrofitted with some from newer models without detriment. The carb looks oem to me, but I’m guessing wrong for the model? As for the coil, I can understand the hot start issue, but I can’t see how it being bad would decrease performance-usually coil issues are all or none. Unless it’s totally wrong for the model and the timing is way off.

Does the saw run like it should now? Is the piston good looking through the ex port?

I have found the opposite about buying on the forum than what’s mentioned above. Usually it’s a safe buy if it’s from a respected member here. No one wants their name tarnished and the guys here have pride and integrity.

yes all parts are jred,just not correct for the model,and im not the expert,and i have always said that im not,but im getting better,as for hot start,once i took the chinese coil out and replaced it with a new oem coil,and also cleaned the breather line,that was suppused to be connected to the original carb,which now just lays next to carb with a filter on it,those 2 things seemed to take care of the hot start,but not the gas leak or the power,with a 24" bar it was a dog,and i sent a video of a one handed cut,saw totally cutting on its own and would just dog out,my 2065 out cuts this saw by a land slide,and my 2065 is only 2 years newer than this 670 with a 16" bar the 670 cuts fine,and maybe thats all it will be.

 

[huskihl]

@dustinwilt68 did you notice the Chinese coil and the broken recoil air dam that was glued back together with red rtv? Certainly you have a few oem coils that you could’ve replaced it with? Could’ve maybe even replaced the broken air dam?

 

[huskihl]

I understand that flipping used saws can be touchy. We never really know what’s wrong with them unless they were run for a while. it appears that this fella paid a fair market price for a good used runner, but with the money he has invested in it, there isn’t a lot of room left to fix several things that may be wrong with it.

 

[dustinwilt68]

I did not notice the coil was Chinese, if I had I would have swapped it for a OEM one, same with the air dam. I DNT like/use any/many AM parts asside from meteor pistons, like I have said I tried to respond as quick as I could to the OP which was the same day he sent me a message, work has been crazy so I was slower then usual. I would have even been happy to send him a different saw all together as I stated, i dnt think he found the coil was chicom till he took it to the dealer and he had them replace it there, so I had no opportunity to send him anything except the refund that he asked for, and that's what I did, just as he asked.

 

[JohnnyBlade]

I have been into maybe 1 or 2 of these saws and I can tell you the clutch, carb and top cover are all oem. There is no AM top cover for a jonsered, they had several different tilly carb numbers along the way and that's one of the later clutches. According to the serial number it's a 1996.

Lol! 1-2
John is right.
Multiple carb options.
That looks like the same clutch i have on a half dozen 670/champs.
Top cover from a 630 to 670 is about a 1/4” difference.
Has to do with the AF design. Cant tell with out a top cover pic though. U really need the 2 side by side to tell the difference. No AM covers that im aware of. As for the champ designation i believe it was more of a time specific thing. Not that it had different or high performance parts on it. Really just a fancy sticker.
Just my 2 cents.




@2188redhead

 

[2188redhead]

Lol! 1-2
John is right.
Multiple carb options.
That looks like the same clutch i have on a half dozen 670/champs.
Top cover from a 630 to 670 is about a 1/4” difference.
Has to do with the AF design. Cant tell with out a top cover pic though. U really need the 2 side by side to tell the difference. No AM covers that im aware of. As for the champ designation i believe it was more of a time specific thing. Not that it had different or high performance parts on it. Really just a fancy sticker.
Just my 2 cents.




@2188redhead

johnnyblade,yes they are all oem parts,ive never once denied they werent,and im surte over the years they used different carbs,with this saw I have,Wilt specifcally said it had a shorter too cover,thats fine,i dont care about that,yes its a 1996 thats all good,but if someone can show me a pic of one of these saws with the breather line out of the tank,with a filter on the end of the line then I was misinformed,but i cant belive thats how it is,cuz it leaks gas all over when on its side..
as for the clutch i have no isssues with it either,the biggest thing is,it just dosent cut as it should at all.
I do want to add i was refunded what I asked for so as far as im concerned this is no longer an issue,ill get the saw right or as right as it can be..and again im a wood cutter, not a collector, and by no means a expert, but im learning lots thanks to all you guys

 

[Ronie]

It could be that it had a return line from the carb and the carb was changed out to one that doesn't have the return, then a filter was put on the return line.

Edit: I see you already thought of that.
If it's leaking from that filter you could plug it or put an Echo style check valve on it.

 

[Ronie]

Did you or the dealer do a compression check? If it's good I'd check the tune, even if someone in the past put a 630 carb on it, it should handle a 24" bar.

 

[2188redhead]

It could be that it had a return line from the carb and the carb was changed out to one that doesn't have the return, then a filter was put on the return line.

Edit: I see you already thought of that.
If it's leaking from that filter you could plug it or put an Echo style check valve on it.

haaa yeah Ryan already suggested that,im gonna get one,he was pretty certain it had some type of a check valve so it wouldnt let gas out, and air in..

 

[Stump Shot]

johnnyblade,yes they are all oem parts,ive never once denied they werent,and im surte over the years they used different carbs,with this saw I have,Wilt specifcally said it had a shorter too cover,thats fine,i dont care about that,yes its a 1996 thats all good,but if someone can show me a pic of one of these saws with the breather line out of the tank,with a filter on the end of the line then I was misinformed,but i cant belive thats how it is,cuz it leaks gas all over when on its side..
as for the clutch i have no isssues with it either,the biggest thing is,it just dosent cut as it should at all.
I do want to add i was refunded what I asked for so as far as im concerned this is no longer an issue,ill get the saw right or as right as it can be..and again im a wood cutter, not a collector, and by no means a expert, but im learning lots thanks to all you guys

Been some time since I messed with these, yes the 630 and 670 were like the same thing only different as far as parts go. If anybody around here can help you with specific details on these saws it's @Spike60