3/8 vs 404

[Stump Shot]

Gotta look rik dis

 

[junkman]

3/8 Oregon generally has taller teeth than Stihl. Is this the same for 404?

The oregon i have is not as tall as the stihl ,the full skip square has longest and tallest of all the cutters in the chain i have, when i get time i will try to set side by side and take an image. Think it is rslf chain

 

[junkman]

Here is side by side of archer ,oregon skip ,stihl rslf skip, and stihl rsc round full comp ,the archer has 3 sharpens on it so its not full cutter size
Top to bottom archer on top ,then oregon,stihl skip square,stihl full comp round

 

[RI Chevy]

The top photo Brian. Are they all 3/8?
1st one, Archer looks wide like 404.

 

[junkman]

The top photo Brian. Are they all 3/8?
1st one, Archer looks wide like 404.

All are .404

 

[Stump Shot]

All are .404

How well does the Archer .404" work for you?

 

[concretegrazer]

Here is side by side of archer ,oregon skip ,stihl rslf skip, and stihl rsc round full comp ,the archer has 3 sharpens on it so its not full cutter sizeView attachment 177644
Top to bottom archer on top ,then oregon,stihl skip square,stihl full comp roundView attachment 177646

Its interesting to see how much more there is behind the rivet on the stihl's

 

[junkman]

How well does the Archer .404" work for you?

I reminds me of old style rslf stihl chain ,rakers look the same ,it leaves a lot of chips on the ground ,self feeds real nice ,little rougher feel cutting than modern stihl chain ,that could be the rakers biting harder,it was leaving about half inch chips sharpend 3 times rakes untouched.

 

[Stump Shot]

I reminds me of old style rslf stihl chain ,rakers look the same ,it leaves a lot of chips on the ground ,self feeds real nice ,little rougher feel cutting than modern stihl chain ,that could be the rakers biting harder,it was leaving about half inch chips sharpend 3 times rakes untouched.

Thanks, don't sound too bad to me.

 

[RI Chevy]

All are .404

Interesting to see the different sized cutters. The Archer looks twice as wide as the others.
Thanks Brian.

 

[Deets066]

Not sure what the width of the tooth does, but I do like the height of the archer

 

[junkman]

Not sure what the width of the tooth does, but I do like the height of the archer

May be stronger for the edge ,this is about 2 gallons of fuel bucking firewood ,makes big chips too lol

 

[davidwyby]

Dudes...rummaging through the forum looking for y’all’s knowledge nuggets. Looking for what to get for cutting a mountain of big dry hard dirty eucalyptus. It looks like .404 square ground may be the ticket. Maybe archer with the super wide kerf might be good for bar and chain grabbing fibrous palms too.

@Benwa check this out

 

[davidwyby]

.404 used to be made in 050, but I don't think anyone has made it for years maybe decades. A few ol timers have some if you really wanted to find it but its fairly rare. I run 063 .404 and 063 3/8 so I can swap nose sprockets around between bars if I need too. Speed isn't everything, I like .404 on my 80 & 90cc saws, in Ozzy hardwoods it cuts for ages with chipper or semi chisel chain. Also get a lot of production/sharpenings out of the big long cutters.

Have you tried full chisel square ground? Always looking to pick you Aussies’ brains on euc. Thanks!

 

[Wonkydonkey]

Have you tried full chisel square ground? Always looking to pick you Aussies’ brains on euc. Thanks!

I can’t remember who said it, but stih rs (semi chisel) was better than full chisel, iirc .

was it @rogue60

 

[deye223]

I can’t remember who said it, but stih rs (semi chisel) was better than full chisel, iirc .

was it @rogue60

Probably me as I can only afford to buy one roll at a time I use semi chisel 404 . 46 RM on everything Rogue prefers full Chisel and clean hardwood semi if it's got and *s-word up the guts.

 

[BK13]

So forgive a stupid FNG question, but at what point saw displacement-wise does .404 become viable? Over 70cc? 90cc?

 

[Ryan Browne]

So forgive a stupid FNG question, but at what point saw displacement-wise does .404 become viable? Over 70cc? 90cc?

Depends on what you're trying to cut. I wouldn't hesitate to run it on a healthy 70cc saw but not in real big wood.

 

[Wilhelm]

On medium and long bars I'd say 90cc and up.

I have a 20" .404" B&C setup for my 64/73/79cc saws, they pull it fine.

 

[deye223]

On my for 460 461 24 inch run 404 we need sharp chains here in Australia with our wood 3/8 just gos Blunt to quick I've noticed that the power band on the 462 is a bit narrow for 404 very disappointing 660 661 not a problem .