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  1. Manofstihl066

    Manofstihl066 Pinnacle OPE Member

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    This is something I've been wanting to do for a long time but simply have not had the time or funds to pursue. I farm, working for my dad and uncle so the large equipment ( semi truck, heavy equipment trailer, and tractors and loaders) I work with technically aren't mine. The saws I myself own are echo 355t top handle, Stihl ms 290, Stihl 661r, and Stihl 064/66. I also own a echo pole saw.
     
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    Get that knuckle. Wishing I bought one decades ago. Might still grab one some day if it pops up. Very universal rig. I'm out for the most part now. Time caught up with me so I'm told.
     
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    I agree with some of the other post. Go work for a Tree service in your area. Gain some skill from people that have been in the business for a while. I would be prepared to invest the time. I would say 3to5 years to climb under someone else before you make the leap to your own stuff. I would work for one guy for 2.5 to 3 years then go work for another Tree service. We all have different ways of doing a Tree and gaining knowledge from multiple companies will make you a lot better. Hope this helps. I have been climbing and timber falling for 13 years and been on my own for 4 years.
     
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    RI Chevy DollyStihlvarna Runner ????

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    OR, just pick and choose the jobs that you want. lol
    You might not get the big money jobs, but there is a place for people who do the small jobs. The easier ones.
    I do small jobs that are easy. Lol. No overhead. Most homeowners love the lower prices. I do know my limitations. I only take on what I can do.
     
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    I like this right here.
    OP you already have full time work it sounds like. Get some liability insurance and start doing what you can. Watch a few thousand videos and stop and talk with as many tree crews as you have time to.
    If you can't make money with the equipment and skills you have now you won't make money with more, that's why I asked what you have now.
    Once you are out and about and actually doing it you will understand more and more of what everyone here is saying, and more and more of what the videos are showing. If you are watching videos about knots, have a rope in hand to practice. Most all of the companies who sell tree gear have tutorials on knots and all the ratings are right on their ads with links to videos.
    Is it rocket science, no, but there is a lot to it. Start with what you have and then invest in what you need.
    Remember most businesses go under within the first year, the most common reason is debt/making no money. There are many reasons for that, but if you don't buy anything except with cash, maintain your equipment, and have insurance you will not go under because of that, which takes you out of the highest failure for start up companies.
     
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    Manofstihl066 Pinnacle OPE Member

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    Great advice guys, thanks a lot.
     
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    Have saw will cut wood for $$$$ LOL.
     
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    Manofstihl066 Pinnacle OPE Member

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    Haha I may give it a shot this winter when there is down time. Trying to take on a few small jobs with what I got sounds like a good place to start. I do fine where I'm at farming but this is a dream I've had for a long time. Running saws, cutting and shaping trees are a passion of mine and if there's a way to do it as a profession, well that'd be great.
     
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    It has been over a year, did you ever get your tree business started?

    > Get your CDL

    This is one of the best pieces of advice given !

    Your limit for a trailer will be 10k without it, which leaves you with a 7500# load, and if you get caught over the limit with a non-CDL trailer, you are in for an expensive lesson.

    Buy a dump trailer !

    Buy a bucket truck (likely a CDL) with a bucket where the boom doubles as a ladder, I think it is ALTEC?

    ALWAYS wear a harness and safety strap inside the bucket. If you do not buy one where the boom is a ladder, you better know how to get down from your 40+ feet using a rope, your harness, and a figure 8 at a minimum. That includes getting down after you fall from the bucket. People fall out all the time from user error, getting struck with tree branches, get dragged out with tree branches, and they certainly break down enough!

    Wait until the day you cut a branch or large limb and it bounces back off the ground and takes out the lift ! One of the hazards of people trying to win the Darwin Award while using ladders while cutting trees is the cut piece swings around (no undercut) and takes out the ladder on which they are standing.

    This is Georgia so there is always tree work! I would say start by clearing tree lots for farms where you can just drop them, then buy a sawmill and remove the wood as lumber. This will pay for more equipment.

    If you buy a dump trailer it will save a lot of time and you can make a decent income from firewood. You can even rent yourself out to Mexican roofing and tree "companies" where they can not have dump trailers in their apartment building parking lots or mobile home lots.

    I started out by doing a neighbor a favor so her house would not get crushed by a group of pine trees that had already started to fall during a storm, one had already grazed her house, and we had less then 24 hours to remove them before the rest of the storm came through.

    I told her there was no way I was cutting all that with an electric chainsaw and axe. So, I had her pay for a Poulan Wildthing 18" for $160, I spent my own money buying some 1/4" cable for anchors and winching, and I took down the remaining (3) 20"+ pines by dropping and pulling them into the cul-de-sac next to where she lived. Then had my kids come over and stack all the branches and rounds on the curb for the county pick up which was $75 if I correctly remember . So, I was in the business and I had (got in GA!) my start just because I wanted to help my neighbor so her house would not be crushed.

    The insurance adjuster could not believe I did the whole job for $160, when it would have been thousands of dollars to have it done WITHOUT emergency pricing. So, because some of the front windows had to be replaced by the first tree that "brushed" her house and broke the front windows, he said he would replace ALL the windows in the house so they would "match" :-D

    I started with an 18" Poulan Wildthing (commonly known as the purple pull-on-alot) on which I put on well over 100 hours doing firewood before blowing it up, and about $50 worth of 1/4 cable and clamps, and a 4x4 pickup truck that I used as a winch and anchor.

    So, you certainly do not need to spend big bucks to get started, but, being willing to learn and knowing how to work safely without killing yourself or someone else certainly helps.

    Wear a real chainsaw helmet with face screen.
    Steel toe boots with a puncture proof sole.
    --> CHAINSAW CHAPS <---
    Good anti-vibration gloves
     
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    Dub11 Some body poisoned the watering hole!

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    Who knows what he did because he turned out to be scumbag lying peice of *s-word and was band from the site.
     
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