Cerberus
Cerberus the aardvark, not the hell-hound!!
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So I just salvaged a $600 Echo ppt-266(prior version of the 2620, basically same thing), dry-weight 18lbs before B&C, oil in reservoir at the cutter (or fuel-in-tank), with ~12' total length extended. I added (probably) 3-->5lbs in my rebuild (it was snapped-in-half when I took possession), and yesterday when I did my 1st session...well let's just say it's the reason I'm not working today/potentially even tomorrow, back is *torn up* from trying to control that thing (and I'd thought my forward-handle, and improved shoulder-strapping, would've made it a breeze!!) Well, for rainy days (majority of days in FL summers), at least I can use it here&there when I can't use a lith unit ;D
So --- *****which branding******???? For 20v powertools, I'm in-love w/ the Ryobi ecosystem, they've got everything I want and I'm still on my original two batteries (P102's, their lowest-mAh battery pucks) from nearly 2yrs ago and no noticeable decline yet.... What started as "I need a lithium polesaw sooner than later, and I'm definitely going lithium when my 25cc top-handle dies.....my Husqy blower is in great shape but it'll go eventually and at this point I consider <30cc powerheads as basically obsolete and surpassed in a power//weight paradigm by lithium. Even Echo is just putting-out a lithium 40V they say will compete/match their 2511t.
I don't mind expensive batteries (like Ryobi's, relatively-speaking!) if they're made of good cells (ryobi definitely uses great 18650's in their battery-pucks), and a reasonable value (ryobi's aren't cheap, but again it's worth it as they are primo batteries) BUT, from my experience w/ handhelds/20V tools, I've realized it's not about any 1 tool but 'the eco-system', especially the batteries themselves. One thing I don't care about is recharge time, I'm concerned w/ which batteries can keep a polesaw going the longest, or a blower going longest, w/o power-drop and at a fair price (ie expensive is fine IF people are using them daily and at 2/3rds year see no decline, that is a very good batt.puck!!)
Would appreciate any&all suggestions, order of purchases is likely to be:
- polesaw (soon, need a lightweight unit of this great tool!!)
- top-handle for limbing / that can move a 12" well (let's say "it can move a 14" adequately", that's my way of "then it can handle 12inch just fine!" lol!), comparable to a 25-30cc powerhead, and
- a blower, comparable to a 25-30cc powerhead, for when mine goes (should be a while, though seeing Reg Coates' video of in-home use does have me itching to buy one )
Would REALLY love a 60V ecosystem....gotta say I'm disappointed there's only (2) 80V polesaws available, neither from big-brands, and that 60V isn't norm hell the best Husqvarna unit is like $500 and supposed to be as-good as their 25cc polesaw(2620 or 266's) but still a 40V unit. Don't get me wrong, I know 40V **can** do it but 60V is optimal here / will be where things 'settle' IMO, in a decade most sub-30cc engine-types will be mostly 60V units w/ weaker/inferior 40V options still kicking-around
Thanks a ton for input, I know Ryobi's 40V blower is very satisfactory and their polesaw seems legit, if they had a top-handle I'd be with them no doubt for my lith stuff (love home depot's return-friendliness!) but they don't, would REALLY love to find a 60V platform and did notice Shindaiwa(Echo/Metabo) now has a strimmer that's a 60V unit.....am expecting echo/shindw batteries will swap(of course) so was psyched to see that even though I wouldn't accept a free strimmer(or mower or edger), Shindaiwa is still "starting the 60V platform" for their gear and -- prediction right here, expect I will reference this in 1--->15 months when it happens lol, but w/ Echo keeping the 355t so un-touched (it's a perfect saw, but still no lil tweaks?), and there being ZERO competition for lithium top-handles for *big* bars(16" bars, lithium that can properly replace a 35cc powerhead), like none on the market....Echo has let their masterpiece 355t sit, am betting hard they're going to introduce the 1st "16-->18inch friendy" lithum *top-handle* units, the 25cc-comparables abound already but nobody's made a 35cc-comparable and echo is over-due, watch they are likely to be 1st to market here
Again thanks for any input, would take a fledgling 60V lineup but right now that seems impossible...am loving Ryobi's polesaw, have used&liked the blower..Husq is outstanding, as is echo/shindaiwa, but can *only* speak to Ryobi battery/hardware quality.
So --- *****which branding******???? For 20v powertools, I'm in-love w/ the Ryobi ecosystem, they've got everything I want and I'm still on my original two batteries (P102's, their lowest-mAh battery pucks) from nearly 2yrs ago and no noticeable decline yet.... What started as "I need a lithium polesaw sooner than later, and I'm definitely going lithium when my 25cc top-handle dies.....my Husqy blower is in great shape but it'll go eventually and at this point I consider <30cc powerheads as basically obsolete and surpassed in a power//weight paradigm by lithium. Even Echo is just putting-out a lithium 40V they say will compete/match their 2511t.
I don't mind expensive batteries (like Ryobi's, relatively-speaking!) if they're made of good cells (ryobi definitely uses great 18650's in their battery-pucks), and a reasonable value (ryobi's aren't cheap, but again it's worth it as they are primo batteries) BUT, from my experience w/ handhelds/20V tools, I've realized it's not about any 1 tool but 'the eco-system', especially the batteries themselves. One thing I don't care about is recharge time, I'm concerned w/ which batteries can keep a polesaw going the longest, or a blower going longest, w/o power-drop and at a fair price (ie expensive is fine IF people are using them daily and at 2/3rds year see no decline, that is a very good batt.puck!!)
Would appreciate any&all suggestions, order of purchases is likely to be:
- polesaw (soon, need a lightweight unit of this great tool!!)
- top-handle for limbing / that can move a 12" well (let's say "it can move a 14" adequately", that's my way of "then it can handle 12inch just fine!" lol!), comparable to a 25-30cc powerhead, and
- a blower, comparable to a 25-30cc powerhead, for when mine goes (should be a while, though seeing Reg Coates' video of in-home use does have me itching to buy one )
Would REALLY love a 60V ecosystem....gotta say I'm disappointed there's only (2) 80V polesaws available, neither from big-brands, and that 60V isn't norm hell the best Husqvarna unit is like $500 and supposed to be as-good as their 25cc polesaw(2620 or 266's) but still a 40V unit. Don't get me wrong, I know 40V **can** do it but 60V is optimal here / will be where things 'settle' IMO, in a decade most sub-30cc engine-types will be mostly 60V units w/ weaker/inferior 40V options still kicking-around
Thanks a ton for input, I know Ryobi's 40V blower is very satisfactory and their polesaw seems legit, if they had a top-handle I'd be with them no doubt for my lith stuff (love home depot's return-friendliness!) but they don't, would REALLY love to find a 60V platform and did notice Shindaiwa(Echo/Metabo) now has a strimmer that's a 60V unit.....am expecting echo/shindw batteries will swap(of course) so was psyched to see that even though I wouldn't accept a free strimmer(or mower or edger), Shindaiwa is still "starting the 60V platform" for their gear and -- prediction right here, expect I will reference this in 1--->15 months when it happens lol, but w/ Echo keeping the 355t so un-touched (it's a perfect saw, but still no lil tweaks?), and there being ZERO competition for lithium top-handles for *big* bars(16" bars, lithium that can properly replace a 35cc powerhead), like none on the market....Echo has let their masterpiece 355t sit, am betting hard they're going to introduce the 1st "16-->18inch friendy" lithum *top-handle* units, the 25cc-comparables abound already but nobody's made a 35cc-comparable and echo is over-due, watch they are likely to be 1st to market here
Again thanks for any input, would take a fledgling 60V lineup but right now that seems impossible...am loving Ryobi's polesaw, have used&liked the blower..Husq is outstanding, as is echo/shindaiwa, but can *only* speak to Ryobi battery/hardware quality.