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tore into a saw that was cooked, part 2 will be the rebuild.

some things I really like about this saw, but after getting it running, its nowhere near my 350's for performance. ...even if they were stock I think they'd do considerably better.

one thing is a must, remove the limiters on the carb....though not covered in this vid series, this seems to be at least one of the things that contributed to killing this saw
 

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ssshhhh.... you weren't supposed to see that!


:)
 

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I like your videos and think there a good contribution to this place,it's kool that you take the time to do them.
 

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so you putting dentures in this one? nice videos watching you work on stuff instead of me is awesome.
 

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No dental stuff in my youtube vids...thinking of making a dental channel though.

glad you guys like these. hopefully my vids can be a reference of the relevant saws of our time.... once the vid is done, its done....
 

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wait wait wait.... so you're telling me....its not my party, and I can't cry if I want to?
 

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same issue was posed at AS....

I think there are quite a few comparisons that can be made... I understand the engine size is different, but $ , weight, and a bunch of other things are comparable. unfortunately, the cat muffler really restricts the cs-400. I have not an do not plan on exploring this, as this was not really the purpose of the rebuild video. I needed to move this saw quickly, so I have not messed w/ the muffler, though supposedly it could be a contender performance wise if the cat is removed.

that said, for the $$, the weight, the overall purpose of the saw, the 350 has more to offer I think. just my opinion though. maybe if the cat was removed it would start to change my mind.
 

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whats interesting about the cs-400 clamshell design, the whole thing is self contained, and bolts to the plastic chassis. the 350, though clamshell, uses the plastic chassis as the bottom half of the clamshell, and uses a riser block/bearing cup on the other side, THEN the cylinder head. the beauty there is its modular, and you can mess w/ it. the cs-400 I wouldn't mess with... once factory sealed I'd leave it until it toasted
 

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i deleted my posts,,,, have a good one.
 

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why delete....I didn't say it wasn't relevant

I really don't think you should have deleted those posts, especially if it was an honest question
 

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banter is fine, as long as its banter and in the spirit of learning

I don't like being told that I'm way off base even though I'm the one with a vid.... don't think thats what you were doing.... and as long as it wasn't.... we r cool
 

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You really don't fully appreciate most modern echos unless you open up that muffler and retune the carb.

I scored this brand new cs490 off Flea-bay for 250 to my door.

Bone stock and brand new:

Pull the muffler and remove the stupid little tube out from under the deflector and cut the face off the deflector.20160312_215614.jpg

Give it some gills on the other side of the muffler.
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And it wakes right up just like most other modern echos do with the same treatment:

I'd say 25-30% gains are worth the 30 minutes.
 

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I mod most of the saws I do. this one I didn't, needed to move it quickly. had I known it would make that much difference I might have opened up the muff.

believe me, I do appreciate a lot of the features on the echo, and was quite surprised how much I liked certain things about it.
 

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I mod most of the saws I do. this one I didn't, needed to move it quickly. had I known it would make that much difference I might have opened up the muff.

believe me, I do appreciate a lot of the features on the echo, and was quite surprised how much I liked certain things about it.

They are pretty neat saws. Thanks for the great vids.
 

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welcome!

@jake wells Jake, didn't mean to scare you off, wasn't my intention man. Please repost your questions / comments if possible

oh, and i promise to keep dentistry out of it :)
 

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its faster than a poulan.
 

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haven't run one, so I wouldn't know.

I really like the echo fuel line btw.... gotta get some for a review
 

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well um a poulan mildthang i mean haha.
 
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