why are new huskies complete rubbish?

[sunfish]

I'm not a big fan of the auto carbs, but they do work well.

Auto Tune hasn't been the trouble with any of the new saws, it's other issues.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Yeah these new Huskys suck! I have a 2011 562 that has been flawless an stuff...

I like my 550! A few quirks but I got jer lined ouf and it runs fantaistic

 

[Czed]

It is a pain to have to have the dealer hook it up to diagnostics

It would be a pain for me I don't know of any dealer close to me that has the equipment to even diagnose those saws I'll stick with the carburated models.

 

[Keith Gandy]

It would be a pain for me I don't know of any dealer close to me that has the equipment to even diagnose those saws I'll stick with the carburated models.

Most dealers dont. I talked with a Stihl dealer yeaterday that has a shop full of mtronic saws to sell and no software and didnt have a clue about it

 

[Windthrown]

Husky doesn't have a North American plant?

That would be a no. 'cept most Husky bars and chains are rebranded Oregon made here or in Kanuckistan.

 

[Windthrown]

The foresters also do not like the external chain brake, they've already had one get smashed as they couldn't separate the bar from power head

Outboard clutches are one reason I sold off my Husky saws. 'cept the 372/365 Huskies are inboard, along with several other models. The older 372 was a good saw, the newer ones are not as good (lot higher vibration on the Xtorque 372). With Stihl I do not like the Mtronic or the cold air strato setup either. Mtronic seems to require re-calibrating/resetting for elevation changes and the strato saws are cold blooded and a PITA to work on. So I am keeping my older Stihl saws. I may get a 461 before they update them with Mtronic. I would love a spring mount 461 though. Maybe there is a way to gut an Mtronic saw and change them over to carb tuning?

As for the 661, I hear rumors about a problem they had with the original design crank, and they have a new coil for them now. They are also on the 3rd generation cylinders on them after the 'recall'. There is also a revised intake boot, and several other small changes. I hear that dealers here are selling 'recall' SN 661 saws in NA with 2nd generation cylinders on them but with the original boot. I will keep my 660, TYVM.

 

[Tor R]

I am probleby one of the few who loves the auto tune system, perhaps I was just pure lucky when I bought that JRed 2253WH, but it has worked like a dream since day one, no mather weather or weather changes I experience due spring season, worked flawless. Today I would not bought a Husky/JRed without autotune.
Even I fancy the good old Husky 254's and 262's I have to admit that the new generation chainsaws have far better anti vib system, that's what my body tells me when I have worked on my forrest for a day.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

I have used the 550xp at my job a fair bit.. It runs like a scalded dog and I'm quite impressed with it!

But admittedly, I have no intention of replacing my NE346 with one as long as parts remain available to keep it alive..same goes for my 357, and 372 XP-Dubya.. My summer truck is a '78 Chevy K10. I enjoy driving and wrenching on that truck much more than doing the same on our '06 Silverado. It can't be plugged in and fail an inspection for emissions. There is nothing on that truck that can fail short of the frame splitting that I would hesitate to dig into and fix. I like being able to fix my own stuff, especially when it can usually be fixed rather inexpensively relative to more modern vehicles. I have the same mentality about my saws.

On the brand thing, Husky, Stihl, Johnny-Red (black and red Huskies), and Dolmar all make very good professional products, and they make their "cheaper" products as well. I'm a Husky guy, but that doesn't mean that I think Stihl's products are garbage, not at all. If that were the case, they wouldn't be one of the top tier manufacturers of power equipment now would they. I just like characteristics about the Huskies over the Stihls, a simple matter of personal preference. Admittedly, most of those things are fairly insignificant to the function of the saws themselves in the sense of where the rubber meets the road.

 

[panteliss]

Most dealers dont. I talked with a Stihl dealer yeaterday that has a shop full of mtronic saws to sell and no software and didnt have a clue about it

For diagnose the Stihl mtronics all stihl mtronics you just need a simple multimeter and this stihl cable 5910 840 0903 . nothing more
Now tell me how much educate are all theese dealers with theirs stihl authorized master wrench - gold wrench certifications and how the stihl give theese certificates to theese dealers
The same *s-words of course and with the most husqvarna dealers

 

[CR888]

For diagnose the Stihl mtronics all stihl mtronics you just need a simple multimeter and this stihl cable 5910 840 0903 . nothing more. Now tell me how much educate are all theese dealers with theirs stihl authorized master wrench - gold wrench certifications and how the stihl give theese certificates to theese dealers
The same *s-words of course and with the most husqvarna dealers

So true. These saws are stihl carbureted with carbs and will still have the problems any carb saw may encounter. Where they get a bad name is more due to those trained to service AT/MT systems have no idea how to work on them. If as many that sold AT/MT saws new how to work on them, they would have a much better reputation. AT/MT should make diagnostic servicing easier, faster and therefore cheaper but as it stands these 'computer saw systems' get blamed for bad fuel lines, dirty carbs and many other issues not related to the system itself. Customers get blank stares from techs and get hand balled around as a small problem confuses everyone who encounters it. This must change for the consumer to have confidence in a product. Look at what the auto world has done educating the consumer with modern cars, it can be done.

 

[panteliss]

So true. These saws are stihl carbureted with carbs and will still have the problems any carb saw may encounter. Where they get a bad name is more due to those trained to service AT/MT systems have no idea how to work on them. If as many that sold AT/MT saws new how to work on them, they would have a much better reputation. AT/MT should make diagnostic servicing easier, faster and therefore cheaper but as it stands these 'computer saw systems' get blamed for bad fuel lines, dirty carbs and many other issues not related to the system itself. Customers get blank stares from techs and get hand balled around as a small problem confuses everyone who encounters it. This must change for the consumer to have confidence in a product. Look at what the auto world has done educating the consumer with modern cars, it can be done.

I asked some dealers here can i see this mtronic diagnostic tool in use please ? No ones have it , theirs answers was its a very expensive tool and this is why they dont have it .
The distributor is my friend he tell me , most of them dont have not even basics tools , i have lot of customers complain about the quality of services of the most dealers
are only 6-7 diagnostics tools MDG 1 in all country two of them are here , many of them (dealers ) sent here the machines for diagnose and service if they are mtronics,
no coment if we speak for EFI .

 

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[sunfish]

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Better get em before they go Auto Tune...

 

[Hedgerow]

Better get em before they go Auto Tune...

AT will happen sooner or later.

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

^^^Truth^^^

As emissions standards become more and more stringent, more of this technology will have to be adopted.... or brands will be barred from sale in certain countries/markets...

 

[dall]

if things keep going the same for saws as for dirtbikes and 4 wheelers there will be no 2 stroke saws in the future just like no more 2 stroke bikes

 

[RIDE-RED 350r]

The tech is there to be EPA compliant..at least for now.. I give you Johnson/Evinrude and Rotax's ETEC direct injection system used on outboards and snowmobiles. These manufacturers are still offering 2-stroke products today, and they run VERY clean.

Only problem for saws is shrinking that tech down to size to be practical on a saw.. I'm sure it will happen, tech never stops. It's just a matter of time.

Only wild card is when the EPA raises the bar again...and again...and again..and again.. They will never be appeased, just like Hitler wouldn't be appeased!

 

[Locust Cutter]

I had a bad carb on my 562. Now that it's been fixed and muffler modded, I like it better than the ported 262xp (no offense Randy). Randy makes a mean 262 and it's something else but I still prefer the character of my 562. I love it's a/v and torque. Once it's warm and the secondary butterfly for the strato opens, it sounds like a 4bbl opening. It's addictive.

 

[dall]

ride red with 8 saws your slacking lol