Why port?

[Czed]

There's no shortage of dislike for them, that's certain.
A guy should probably pair it up with a 6.5 Creedmoor for the ultimate hate package..

200.00 plus shipping there's one in a bucket at my friends place if you want it.

 

[Squareground3691]

That was a nice top cover

It had a previous crack in it were the filter is now , , but there are others.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Those 441s are a pain to work on i rebuilt my neighbors i told him to just buy a new saw if it fries again before bringing it back to me.

Yep they are not many people that will port one anymore.

 

[farminkarman]

Scratches, cracks, broken stuff, ported, plus the dreaded MS441c.
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How's that thing running anyway? Nice to see you got it back together.

 

[farminkarman]

200.00 plus shipping there's one in a bucket at my friends place if you want it.

Complete?

 

[Czed]

Like not suffering from the RedMax / Husqvarna / Jonsred "Who's-my-daddy???" identity crisis.

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Anything Husqvarna after the 1,2 and 3 series is dead to me
No primer bulbs on my saws.

 

[Czed]

Complete?

It's a full bucket.

 

[Stump Shot]

Offering test runs hey? Haha, was going to tell you if it was done by the cities g2g you probably could let Aaron run it and it would be a for sure sale of another 400 port job.

Seeing as you two have met and all I figured I'd offer.
I can try and make that happen.

 

[Czed]

There's no shortage of dislike for them, that's certain.
A guy should probably pair it up with a 6.5 Creedmoor for the ultimate hate package..

Yes

 

[WI_Hedgehog]

200.00 plus shipping there's one in a bucket at my friends place if you want it.
It's a full bucket.

STIHL is like Harley, they never completely lose their value.
Well, Harley before that queer-beer thing.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Seeing as you two have met and all I figured I'd offer.
I can try and make that happen.

Steve I could care less if someone try’s it, it’s just a saw and what’s the point if of having a ported saw if you never let anyone try it. And weather it’s there or not I won’t be so you’ll still have to ship it. Haha

 

[redline4]

How's that thing running anyway? Nice to see you got it back together.

It took a bunch of cuts in some bigger logs when I was at Steve's for the Mtronic to sort itself out after I put it back together and did a reset, but it runs great.
It starts easy, it's smooth in the vibration department and it holds real good rpm through the cut. I like it.

 

[maulhead]

It took a bunch of cuts in some bigger logs when I was at Steve's for the Mtronic to sort itself out after I put it back together and did a reset, but it runs great.
It starts easy, it's smooth in the vibration department and it holds real good rpm through the cut. I like it.

Were you able to get that cracked case half fixed?

 

[farminkarman]

It took a bunch of cuts in some bigger logs when I was at Steve's for the Mtronic to sort itself out after I put it back together and did a reset, but it runs great.
It starts easy, it's smooth in the vibration department and it holds real good rpm through the cut. I like it.

Good deal! I have never run one, but seeing pics of a cylinder, they look like an overgrown 362. With how much a 362 gains with port work, I imagine your 441 runs really nice.

 

[Stump Shot]

Steve I could care less if someone try’s it, it’s just a saw and what’s the point if of having a ported saw if you never let anyone try it. And weather it’s there or not I won’t be so you’ll still have to ship it. Haha

I just file it under test and tune anyways. Lol

 

[redline4]

Were you able to get that cracked case half fixed?

Yes, Greg got it all fixed up. Did a very nice job on it.

 

[NateSaw]

You have a modern reliable 66cc saw that is capable of cutting anything that needs to be cut View attachment 396346
Here's a original 66cc saw from 1985
That i still use all the time.
I didn't have a ported saw until 2010
And I've been cutting since the mid 1980s
I wouldn't be in a rush to spend a few hundred getting it ported I'd run it a lot and get used to cutting with it before I'd decide to do that or not.

I second this on many fronts. Properly Ported saws carry faster chain speeds, and produce more torque. That's how they get work done faster. A stock 66cc saw already has enough power to severely injure the operator in a kickback scenario. Chain breaks have been very reliable for me. But I've had a kickback event with a ported saw occur, and it happens lightning fast. I had to step back and collect my nerves for a moment. I was lucky the brake worked, and the saw stayed in my hands. It was my fault, as I didn't analyze the tension in the wood. I was told, and believe strongly in spending a good deal of time with a stock saw learning cutting techniques, and getting a feel for the forces at work. Some recommended reading might include the wildland firefighters s-212 manual. I know someone else on here has some recommendations for literature. I love ported saws! Welcome to the addiction!

 

[lohan808]

Well, I have the pants, helmet, ear and eye protection, so I am set there. Always a good reminder thanks, and reminds me I still need to get some boots.

I am learning the ins and outs of my saw. It is still in the break in period. So far it has enough power for me. But I am curious and want to learn all I can before choosing to port or not to port.

As for porting, what about longevity? I have heard that porting a saw will decrease its lifespan, is that true?

Julie,
It has been my experience with ported saws that they most often last a little longer than stock saws. I am not trying to persuade you to go ported. Honestly if you're not a production faller or a firewood outfit, you really don't need a ported saw. I work for a power utility and spend time working with line clearance crews during storm recovery operations. Time is money so I use ported saws. I do firewood ministry work and removals on occasion as well.

That being said, there are some factors that affect ported saw lifespans.
1. Who did the porting? Pro porters will take the time to discuss what your needs and expectations are. They will give you honest answers.
2. How you run the saw. Experience counts here.
3. How you maintain the saw. Fuel and oil type and quality really factor in here. Sharp chains always help.
4. No saw lasts forever, but if you treat it well, and maintain it properly, even stock saws that are well made will last for generations.

 

[julie wolf]

Thank yoi

Julie,
It has been my experience with ported saws that they most often last a little longer than stock saws. I am not trying to persuade you to go ported. Honestly if you're not a production faller or a firewood outfit, you really don't need a ported saw. I work for a power utility and spend time working with line clearance crews during storm recovery operations. Time is money so I use ported saws. I do firewood ministry work and removals on occasion as well.

That being said, there are some factors that affect ported saw lifespans.
1. Who did the porting? Pro porters will take the time to discuss what your needs and expectations are. They will give you honest answers.
2. How you run the saw. Experience counts here.
3. How you maintain the saw. Fuel and oil type and quality really factor in here. Sharp chains always help.
4. No saw lasts forever, but if you treat it well, and maintain it properly, even stock saws that are well made will last

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Julie,
It has been my experience with ported saws that they most often last a little longer than stock saws. I am not trying to persuade you to go ported. Honestly if you're not a production faller or a firewood outfit, you really don't need a ported saw. I work for a power utility and spend time working with line clearance crews during storm recovery operations. Time is money so I use ported saws. I do firewood ministry work and removals on occasion as well.

That being said, there are some factors that affect ported saw lifespans.
1. Who did the porting? Pro porters will take the time to discuss what your needs and expectations are. They will give you honest answers.
2. How you run the saw. Experience counts here.
3. How you maintain the saw. Fuel and oil type and quality really factor in here. Sharp chains always help.
4. No saw lasts forever, but if you treat it well, and maintain it properly, even stock saws that are well made will last for generations.

That's very helpful, thank you!

 

[julie wolf]

I Want to thank everyone for giving advice and opinions to my question of ' why port'. I am beginning to understand more about it, and all this information helps. Thanks!