update on the new Makita/Dolmar 81cc saw

[Woodpecker]

6100 won't be turned into anything bigger. Small mount bar makes that a useless endeavor. Even going up to 70cc would be iffy with the limited bar selection and 50cc clutch and oiler components

Nate that's the part that had me puzzled when he told me. My guess is it'll be a 81cc strato saw on a chassis similar to the 6100 but tweaked to fit a large mount bar and stand up to the larger top end.

 

[ajschainsaws]

Not at all, I believe at least Husky, Stihl and Dolmar (likely others as well) did things like this long before Echo did - unless they (Echo) did the same with much older generations of saws than mentioned here.

The idea is an old one, nothing novel about it.

good summary

 

[ajschainsaws]

9010 is closer to a 395 in power than a 390. It's not as smooth as a 390 or 395 with all rubber AV.

Very true the 9010 is closer too the 395 in output

 

[Cut4fun]

If I were a betting man it will be called 8100. I would bet it will be influenced from the ek8100 52mm 38mm 80.7cc

I been looking at those efco 8200 80.7cc 52mm 38mm for $600. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/efco/efco-8200/msg72895/#new
All same bore stroke of the solo 681 and husky 181 281.


ek8100

 

[mdavlee]

It might be more like that. I just hope they keep the power to weight about the same.

 

[Chris Zautner]

If I were a betting man it will be called 8100. I would bet it will be influenced from the ek8100 52mm 38mm 80.7cc

I been looking at those efco 8200 80.7cc 52mm 38mm for $600. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/efco/efco-8200/msg72895/#new
All same bore stroke of the solo 681 and husky 181 281.


ek8100

Whatever happened to Canadiancarguy?

 

[SawTroll]

It might be more like that. I just hope they keep the power to weight about the same.

I don't think there are a lot of options regarding bore and stroke if it actually is 81cc, so I agree on that - provided they don't go into decimals. That has happened before (to put some models right over 50cc for EPA rule reasons) of course, but I don't see any reason to do it in this case.

 

[Locust Cutter]

You feel the 9010 isn't the saw that runs with the 390 ?

They're two different creatures entirely with a fair amount of functional overlap, depending on the cutting conditions, bar length and operator.
The 9010 has a boatload of torque and will both pull and oil a 42" with aplomb in just about any wood in N.A, including Hedge (though I'd definitely want a skip chain). The 390xp has a decided RPM advantage in 28-30" wood and less pulling a 24-32" bar very well. YMMV. If you're heavy handed, dogging the saw in to cut, the 9010 will run away from a 390. With a good chain in <30" wood, letting the chain cut on it's own, the 390 will walk or run away from the 9010 depending on the wood density.

For my use my ported 372 runs a 28" bar decently but 24" is about perfect.
A 390xp would be a 28" saw which could also run from a 20-32" bar very well.
the 9010 sometimes wars a 28" bar but is more at home with it's 36" bar. I don't have a longer one as I just don't need one, nor do I want to file that many cutters when I find a nail in a tree on accident...

 

[Locust Cutter]

The 390 feels like a slightly larger 372xp. The 9010 feels like a lighter, smaller Stihl 084...

 

[Simondo]

They're two different creatures entirely with a fair amount of functional overlap, depending on the cutting conditions, bar length and operator.
The 9010 has a boatload of torque and will both pull and oil a 42" with aplomb in just about any wood in N.A, including Hedge (though I'd definitely want a skip chain). The 390xp has a decided RPM advantage in 28-30" wood and less pulling a 24-32" bar very well. YMMV. If you're heavy handed, dogging the saw in to cut, the 9010 will run away from a 390. With a good chain in <30" wood, letting the chain cut on it's own, the 390 will walk or run away from the 9010 depending on the wood density.

For my use my ported 372 runs a 28" bar decently but 24" is about perfect.
A 390xp would be a 28" saw which could also run from a 20-32" bar very well.
the 9010 sometimes wars a 28" bar but is more at home with it's 36" bar. I don't have a longer one as I just don't need one, nor do I want to file that many cutters when I find a nail in a tree on accident...

Always good to hear a considered opinion based on experience ...I feel as with most things saw related there is unlikely to be a "Fully" 1 fits all situations and person deal.

 

[Locust Cutter]

Realistically I could do 90% of my cutting with a good 40-50cc saw and my 372. I could also do the same with just my 562 xp. I like variety though and being able to size the tool accordingly to the job is a plus. You don't run the blade on a table saw to it's full height in order to rip 1/2" plywood. I take a similar mentality with my saws. Sooner or later a 390xp will find it's way home to me and then go to Missouri or Tennessee for a breathing treatment (if not already being pre-administered).

 

[Simondo]

Realistically I could do 90% of my cutting with a good 40-50cc saw and my 372. I could also do the same with just my 562 xp. I like variety though and being able to size the tool accordingly to the job is a plus. You don't run the blade on a table saw to it's full height in order to rip 1/2" plywood. I take a similar mentality with my saws. Sooner or later a 390xp will find it's way home to me and then go to Missouri or Tennessee for a breathing treatment (if not already being pre-administered).

Very much how i see the choice of what saw to use . My preference is to try out as many as i can and see how they feel ...handy if i get some variety through the door to work on.