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As soon as the black vinyl gets grease or oil on it it starts peeling. And its not a comfortable handle anyways. They don't hold up to being used as chisels either... handles will break off. There's a billion different good screwdrivers out there. There is zero reason to buy the Klein ones.
I think one reason some people dislike them so much is they are designed for electrical work and get used for mechanical work and everything else and they just don't cut the mustard

They used to, but not anymore

The handles never used to get loose or rotate under force but they slip and slide now

I think I have less than $100 in the newer set and they are ok for the electrical I do around the house but I grab something else when I work on cars, bikes, etc
 

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I still use the Klein stuff. Must admit I am an electrical worker and always have used them. Like everything else, the quality has started to slip. Not to mention very little of their product line is made in the USA any more.
 

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I still use the Klein stuff. Must admit I am an electrical worker and always have used them. Like everything else, the quality has started to slip. Not to mention very little of their product line is made in the USA any more.
When I ordered my Klein tools a couple years ago for the Hawaii house I was astonished to see that only certain items were made in the USA

I was careful to only order those items but even then they aren't what they were as @lohan808 stated

I honestly didn't even consider any other brands just because I grew up with Klein and assumed they were still the best

If I was young and in the trades I would make different choices today
 

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Morning all. Woke to my doors being frozen shut on the truck. Fun times. 30f and highs in the 40s. Woodrow my condolences.
Any one contemplate how healthcare for us older guys is gonna work since the new breed can't find it in themselves to stay employed or do a decent job when they are? Just thinking about it makes me shudder.
Pretty sure we are all on our own. The sooner we come to grips with that the better. Have a buddy entering the medicare labyrinth, and he is frustrated. It is not what he expected.
 

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Actually, I did, but no idea where it got to over the years

Those 2 together seemed to be the combo back in the day

Those and a clamp on

This was dad's old meter, I opened it up this summer to see what kind of battery it took and found this one

I can't believe it didn't leak and corrode

View attachment 400284
Dry cell probably.
 

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Pretty sure we are all on our own. The sooner we come to grips with that the better. Have a buddy entering the medicare labyrinth, and he is frustrated. It is not what he expected.

Most of the time all our care is on the AirForce base and it’s no cost no worries

But if we have to go out into the private sector for specialty care it’s a different story

We have Medicare plus Aetna from my state benefits plus Tricare for Life from her service benefits

And it can get so frigging complicated when they all start pointing at each other to pay despite Medicare supposedly being primary
 

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Pretty sure we are all on our own. The sooner we come to grips with that the better. Have a buddy entering the medicare labyrinth, and he is frustrated. It is not what he expected.

At one point my parents explored getting a divorce because the V.A. basically told him that their household income was above a threshold and could really do next to nothing for him. That's a big thanks after dumping him in the Vietnam jungle.
To this day they still give him no benefits.
 
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