Not So Pro 3

[3browns]

I have seen FLEX getting a lot of love and seen videos where they come out on top for speed, power, etc

But

I have seen a lot of very negative press about serious battery issues as well

My younger son is a huge Milwaukee fan boi and he uses the stuff daily at work

I had several Kobalt tools in Hawaii and although it was homeowner use, not contractor ass kicking, I was happy with the performance especially considering the price AT THE TIME

Kobalt seems to be closing the price gap and catching up with the big boys

 

[Dream]

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Recon how many folks walking around now even know who HST is?

 

[3browns]

Sorry. FYI, its mid-60s F in Northeast GA tonight.
Sposed to get to mid 70s tomorrow.
I dont necessarily want a blizzard, but holy fugg would I like to wake up to at least low 40s in the morning.
Just tired of sweating FFS!

The boss went to FLETC in Glynco in August and wished she was dead

Sorry, but you stay there and I will stay here

 

[Lnk]

Sorry. FYI, its mid-60s F in Northeast GA tonight.
Sposed to get to mid 70s tomorrow.
I dont necessarily want a blizzard, but holy fugg would I like to wake up to at least low 40s in the morning.
Just tired of sweating FFS!

Same here Brent, hoping I need a long sleeve t-shirt at least. Would like to hunt without sweating, and be able to hang a deer before butchering.

 

[maulhead]

I have seen FLEX getting a lot of love and seen videos where they come out on top for speed, power, etc

But

I have seen a lot of very negative press about serious battery issues as well

My younger son is a huge Milwaukee fan boi and he uses the stuff daily at work

I had several Kobalt tools in Hawaii and although it was homeowner use, not contractor ass kicking, I was happy with the performance especially considering the price AT THE TIME

Kobalt seems to be closing the price gap and catching up with the big boys

This might get you up speed (or into this century at least) on the definition of that spelling.

 

[Dream]

I gave my only DeWalt drill away. Milwaukee is the king of battery power tools IMO.

Have a Default cordless Porta band saw because it was a free pickup from one of the guys trucks that left.
The drive tires dont track well, and it throws a band if you push on it even a little bit.
Just have it for convenience. Still have the corded Milwaukee deep cut variable speed for production type things.
Sorry, but Milwaukee is consistent.
Always gets the job done.
I dont have time to fugg around with maybe stuff.
Everything else is Milwaukee M18. Most of it is Fuel series now.
Has anyone tried the right angle impacts?
We got a 3/8" drive one for breaking down motor couplings.
Not much breakout torque. About 50 lb/ft, but the speed is awesome, and fits almost anywhere a ratchet will.

 

[dall]

I have some older M12 stuff but its mostly M18 Fuel.

I have both

Have a Default cordless Porta band saw because it was a free pickup from one of the guys trucks that left.
The drive tires dont track well, and it throws a band if you push on it even a little bit.
Just have it for convenience. Still have the corded Milwaukee deep cut variable speed for production type things.
Sorry, but Milwaukee is consistent.
Always gets the job done.
I dont have time to fugg around with maybe stuff.
Everything else is Milwaukee M18. Most of it is Fuel series now.
Has anyone tried the right angle impacts?
We got a 3/8" drive one for breaking down motor couplings.
Not much breakout torque. About 50 lb/ft, but the speed is awesome, and fits almost anywhere a ratchet will.

I have the 3/8 and 1/2 inch impacts and I bought to do brakes with
They do ok but not really impressed but they are m12

 

[JoeDirt]

Once you are committed to a particular battery platform, it's hard to switch. I don't like having different batteries and chargers for every single tool.

The first combo kit I bought was Milwaukee which I picked for no particular reason. It was a brushless, non-fuel M18 1/4" impact driver and 1/2" drill. Beat the living piss out of both. They are both probably close to 10 years old now. Thought I finally killed the impact a couple months ago, but after it sat for a day, it started back up and has been fine ever since. I've got a bunch of other Milwaukee stuff now, some Fuel and some not, and its all been good.

 

[Mastermind]

I have a bunch of older M12 stuff that I use M18 batteries on via an adapter. Sorta figured it would kill the tools, but never has.

 

[3browns]

Have a Default cordless Porta band saw because it was a free pickup from one of the guys trucks that left.
The drive tires dont track well, and it throws a band if you push on it even a little bit.
Just have it for convenience. Still have the corded Milwaukee deep cut variable speed for production type things.
Sorry, but Milwaukee is consistent.
Always gets the job done.
I dont have time to fugg around with maybe stuff.
Everything else is Milwaukee M18. Most of it is Fuel series now.
Has anyone tried the right angle impacts?
We got a 3/8" drive one for breaking down motor couplings.
Not much breakout torque. About 50 lb/ft, but the speed is awesome, and fits almost anywhere a ratchet will.

I have an old corded Milwaukee 1/2" drill with a right angle handle and you BETTER have that handle in your hand if you bind up a bit, otherwise you are gonna feel like you were in a spin cycle

I have a corded Milwaukee SawzAll as well and ditto for the power on that

 

[Dream]

I have both

I have the 3/8 and 1/2 inch impacts and I bought to do brakes with
They do ok but not really impressed but they are m12

Try the Fuel series M18 ones.
Understand I'm talking about an actual right-angle IMPACT tool and not a ratchet.
Ive got a 3/8" drive M12 ratchet that does a great job. It just doesnt break stuff loose well like virtually ALL pneumatic or cordless electric ratchets.
Just saves some time and elbow/wrist wear.
Also try the new HO batteries.
They seem to give a little more oomph.

 

[3browns]

Once you are committed to a particular battery platform, it's hard to switch. I don't like having different batteries and chargers for every single tool.

The first combo kit I bought was Milwaukee which I picked for no particular reason. It was a brushless, non-fuel M18 1/4" impact driver and 1/2" drill. Beat the living piss out of both. They are both probably close to 10 years old now. Thought I finally killed the impact a couple months ago, but after it sat for a day, it started back up and has been fine ever since. I've got a bunch of other Milwaukee stuff now, some Fuel and some not, and its all been good.

I bought a Milwaukee cordless 3/8" drill/driver at Grainger probably in 2003 and it used NIMH batteries and that thing sucked ass from the get go and when the batteries completely failed in just a couple of years of home use I was done with cordless for a long time

 

[JoeDirt]

I bought a Milwaukee cordless 3/8" drill/driver at Grainger probably in 2003 and it used NIMH batteries and that thing sucked ass from the get go and when the batteries completely failed in just a couple of years of home use I was done with cordless for a long time

Back when everything still used NiMH batteries, cordless tools in general sucked. They were okay for light use with a drill and not much else. If you told someone in 2003 that battery impacts would be as strong as air impacts in 20 years they'd probably think you were crazy. Lithium batteries have completely changed the world of power tools.

 

[Mastermind]

Back when everything still used NiMH batteries, cordless tools in general sucked. They were okay for light use with a drill and not much else. If you told someone in 2003 that battery impacts would be as strong as air impacts in 20 years they'd probably think you were crazy. Lithium batteries have completely changed the world of power tools.

I upgraded my Porter Cable tools to lithium. Absolute game changer.

 

[Dream]

I bought a Milwaukee cordless 3/8" drill/driver at Grainger probably in 2003 and it used NIMH batteries and that thing sucked ass from the get go and when the batteries completely failed in just a couple of years of home use I was done with cordless for a long time

First cordless tools I remember using were back in the 80s.(I know, here we go down Memory lane..)
Helped my dad install load management switches on water heaters and AC units. Part of his co-ops energy management plan. They would selectively turn off appliances for participating members during peak demand hours. Only turned off for short periods of time, and participants got a break on their bill.
First "cordless drills" were Black and Decker 9.6(?) volt ones.
Worked great for putting in a couple of plastic masonry anchors, running in a couple of wood screws, or taking off/on AC unit covers.
Way better than dragging cords and finding an outlet or doing it by hand.
Looking back, they were pretty pathetic compared to todays stuff.
Still way better than a brace and bit tho...

 

[3browns]

The batteries on my sunset are fully charged

 

[Dream]

Back when everything still used NiMH batteries, cordless tools in general sucked. They were okay for light use with a drill and not much else. If you told someone in 2003 that battery impacts would be as strong as air impacts in 20 years they'd probably think you were crazy. Lithium batteries have completely changed the world of power tools.

Truth.
A framing crew can now go in and frame out a house without temporary power at all.
There are sliding compount miter saws that run off a couple of batteries, and will cut a lot of wood on two HO lithium batteries.
Can even get a compressor setup that uses Lion batteries to run decking/roofing nailers that are just as fast as a 120 volt compressor with the same setup.
Framing nailers that dont even need a fuel cell like the two Paslode guns I still have. Full cordless. No recharge delay.
Still not as fast as a good pnuematic gun, but damn close and probably better considering no hoses, oil, etc.

 

[Lnk]

The batteries on my sunset are fully charged

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Clearly, moving weather has passed. Tough to move in that stuff. Glad you like it.

 

[Dream]

Damn I feel old actually using an actual manual hammer to drive nails...
Used to have Estwing framing hammers. Anyone who couldnt start a nail with a tap and set it with one or two strokes was a pussy.

 

[3browns]

First cordless tools I remember using were back in the 80s.(I know, here we go down Memory lane..)
Helped my dad install load management switches on water heaters and AC units. Part of his co-ops energy management plan. They would selectively turn off appliances for participating members during peak demand hours. Only turned off for short periods of time, and participants got a break on their bill.
First "cordless drills" were Black and Decker 9.6(?) volt ones.
Worked great for putting in a couple of plastic masonry anchors, running in a couple of wood screws, or taking off/on AC unit covers.
Way better than dragging cords and finding an outlet or doing it by hand.
Looking back, they were pretty pathetic compared to todays stuff.
Still way better than a brace and bit tho...

The boss bought me a B&D cordless drill and screwdriver set way back in the day, had a round cell with tabs on both sides that latched and a scrawny charger

I am sure it was NIMH

They weren't even light duty DIY grade, they were an absolute joke but I would pretend to use them to make her happy, like drill a hole in drywall for an anchor