But it keeps getting better the closer I get to the advice given to me by the great fellas here willing to give it. I'm not objective so I won't vote. It ain't shiny, it ain't pro... But it's working. And because of you all. Threads like this got me to where I am. That's a better spot than where I was. I'm encouraged, not discouraged. I see that as potentially positive for other enthusiasts. Keep in mind, the builds not done. And by my own admission, I've trashed this cylinder. Perpendicularity is not existent. Yet it rips more than it did. I just came off the hill from dropping a red oak, 20"bar buried. Could I pry on it? No. But it dumped chips, pulled well and the tree came down right where I wanted it. Soon, I'll be acquiring a professionally ported p&c from a member here. I'll be posting videos of it as it is now, and after I install the new setup. Along with my current timing numbers and pictures of my trashed jug. With the pro porters permission, numbers and pictures of his. The response I've received here has been amazing. Anyway, I'd imagine this topic came up for reasons of exploration... The path of failures and successes. Just my humble guess.