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What kind of buckets and taps should I use?
Do they need to be covered tight?

Any food grade container will work. Lots of guys get buckets from bakeries that formerly held frosting, etc. You'll also see them on Craigslist pretty often. Usually about a dollar a bucket. You don't need to cover them, but it is nice. The old style taps usually have a hook to hang a bucket from, they're expensive if you buy them new though. Might luck out on Craigslist. If you hang buckets on the trees, you don't need a lid, but it's nice. Keeps the rain and squirrels out. With no lids you gotta dump buckets when it rains or when you find critters in them.

I see a lot of guys use the new plastic taps (which only cost $.25) and a few feet of sap tubing to reach a bucket on the ground. In that situation a lid is pretty nice, you can drill a hole for the line, so it fits tight and doesn't get knocked out. I've even seen guys do that with milk jugs, though you don't have much capacity that way. If your trees are decent size (22" diameter plus) you can put two taps running into one bucket.

I don't know when you're thinking of tapping, but I've got a bunch of old plastic taps with a couple feet of tubing already on them. It's garbage to me, so if you pay shipping they're all yours. Should have a couple dozen at least.
 

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What kind of buckets and taps should I use?
Do they need to be covered tight?
I use Honey buckets on a few trees. A tap with a short piece of line going to the bucket works great. Drill a tight fitting hole in the side and snap the lid on. Keeps bugs and stuff out.
 
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Any food grade container will work. Lots of guys get buckets from bakeries that formerly held frosting, etc. You'll also see them on Craigslist pretty often. Usually about a dollar a bucket. You don't need to cover them, but it is nice. The old style taps usually have a hook to hang a bucket from, they're expensive if you buy them new though. Might luck out on Craigslist. If you hang buckets on the trees, you don't need a lid, but it's nice. Keeps the rain and squirrels out. With no lids you gotta dump buckets when it rains or when you find critters in them.

I see a lot of guys use the new plastic taps (which only cost $.25) and a few feet of sap tubing to reach a bucket on the ground. In that situation a lid is pretty nice, you can drill a hole for the line, so it fits tight and doesn't get knocked out. I've even seen guys do that with milk jugs, though you don't have much capacity that way. If your trees are decent size (22" diameter plus) you can put two taps running into one bucket.

I don't know when you're thinking of tapping, but I've got a bunch of old plastic taps with a couple feet of tubing already on them. It's garbage to me, so if you pay shipping they're all yours. Should have a couple dozen at least.
Perfect.

Not sure myself. Checked the buds on cherry trees today. Not good. The tops are turning white six weeks too early.

It was in the sixties today. Found a small second flush grey oyster mushroom today on pressure treated wood. Bet that one is toxic. They should be dormant. Second time in two weeks.....different spot.

The trees are all screwed up. I have mats of fungi in the shade taking over logs and firewood chunks. That's not good with a week of rain coming.

Anyone ever tap other trees around here besides sugar maples?
 

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Perfect.

Not sure myself. Checked the buds on cherry trees today. Not good. The tops are turning white six weeks too early.

It was in the sixties today. Found a small second flush grey oyster mushroom today on pressure treated wood. Bet that one is toxic. They should be dormant. Second time in two weeks.....different spot.

The trees are all screwed up. I have mats of fungi in the shade taking over logs and firewood chunks. That's not good with a week of rain coming.

Anyone ever tap other trees around here besides sugar maples?

Some folks here tap walnut. I tap a bunch of soft maple the sugar content is always lower but we only need a few gallons of syrup.
 

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Some folks here tap walnut. I tap a bunch of soft maple the sugar content is always lower but we only need a few gallons of syrup.
I considered tapping a young white oak real shallow for some vanilla flavors.
Never heard of tapping walnut. White butter nut or black?

Soft maples are everywhere on sloppy ground around here. We call them swamp maples. I know of a few five foot wide white oaks, hard sugar maples and some soft maple to maybe two foot.

Older is better?
 

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I considered tapping a young white oak real shallow for some vanilla flavors.
Never heard of tapping walnut. White butter nut or black?

Soft maples are everywhere on sloppy ground around here. We call them swamp maples. I know of a few five foot wide white oaks, hard sugar maples and some soft maple to maybe two foot.

Older is better?
Yeah bigger is better. Oaks are a no go.
 

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What kind of buckets and taps should I use?
Do they need to be covered tight?
https://www.bascommaple.com/category/316_tubing_fittings/
https://www.bascommaple.com/category/316_tubing_fittings/

I like 3/16 tubing and fittings myself. It's a little more forgiving, and you only make a 5/16" hole in the tree, so it heals more quickly. You can either put a short piece of tubing directly on the spile, and run directly to a food grade bucket, or if you have a hillside, you can connect multiple trees, and use a bigger bucket.

I have enough drop that I was getting good vacuum just from the weight of sap in the 3/16" tubing last year. I'm hoping to do even better this year, since I added more run at the bottom of my tubing setup, further down the hill.
 

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https://www.bascommaple.com/category/316_tubing_fittings/
https://www.bascommaple.com/category/316_tubing_fittings/

I like 3/16 tubing and fittings myself. It's a little more forgiving, and you only make a 5/16" hole in the tree, so it heals more quickly. You can either put a short piece of tubing directly on the spile, and run directly to a food grade bucket, or if you have a hillside, you can connect multiple trees, and use a bigger bucket.

I have enough drop that I was getting good vacuum just from the weight of sap in the 3/16" tubing last year. I'm hoping to do even better this year, since I added more run at the bottom of my tubing setup, further down the hill.
Been thinking of going 3/16 myself. Maybe use the 5/16 for trunk line??
 

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Been thinking of going 3/16 myself. Maybe use the 5/16 for trunk line??
I've read up to 30-35 taps on a single 3/16 works just fine. I haven't had more than 25 on a single run yet, but this year I think I'll be right about 30.

The sap gains speed as it works its way down the line, so by the time it gets to my barrel, it's shooting down the tubing faster than I can walk.
 

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Been thinking of going 3/16 myself. Maybe use the 5/16 for trunk line??

That's not really recommended. You can run 3/16 as far as you want downhill. If you want to run it into a larger line, use mainline, like 3/4". As long as you're still going downhill with 3/16 you're adding vacuum.
 

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I have flat land for the most part but what about tapping high and bleeding low. Does that help pull more sap?
 

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I have flat land for the most part but what about tapping high and bleeding low. Does that help pull more sap?

Not really. The higher up on the tree you put the tap, the less internal pressure exists in the tree. Think about the tree as a column of liquid sticking up in the air. If you tap it at ground level, there will be more pressure behind the taphole than if you tapped it halfway up.
 
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