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This is brutal! Probably fatal without the lid.
Guy is lucky. Should be looking up, not at the stump. Escape route should be at a angle as well… not standing around hanging out straight behind the tree into the danger zone.32182B9B-16C3-4F98-84C1-61360ADA2A93.gif PPE is great and I will always wear mine… but it ain’t going to save you every time. Guy ate his lucky charms that morning for sure. Lol
 
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PPE is no doubt a good idea, but it's no substitute for common sense.

Lots of people get hurt while using all the "proper" safety gear, because they think it's will protect them, but no PPE makes you invincible like some seem to think.

My dad was a constrution carpenter, my grandpa and uncles were loggers, my 3 brothers and I have done both, and ran a portable sawmill for 35 years, and not one amputation or serious injury to date, not saying it can't happen but caution / common sense has always been mandatory, while the use of PPE is dictated by common sense.

Personally I hate using PPE, (with the exception of gloves and ear plugs), but I hate pain even more, so I think about what I'm doing (and use PPE sometimes).

Bottom line is think about what you're doing, or something will go wrong eventually.

All just my opinions....
 

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Guy is lucky. Should be looking up, not at the stump. Escape route should be at a angle as well… not standing around hanging out straight behind the tree into the danger zone.View attachment 326365 PPE is great and I will always wear mine… but it ain’t going to save you every time. Guy ate his lucky charms that morning for sure. Lol
Yep, first thing that caught my eye was his poor choice in escape route
 

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I left out the part about drinking beer and cutting on a RR bed in a fresh deep snow running a friend's 041 that wouldn't stay running so ya had to keep revving it. I cut a dead elm on the hillside, slipped and ran saw across my knee. That's when I realized a 3/8s saw kerf isn't pretty on a knee. I had three cuts side by side. Knee skin is very tuff to push a needle thru. I lucked out and didn't cut anything important. Third row cut into capp.
 

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SMH… Too many Yoo-hoo Toob heroes out there trying to look cool. He’s lucky he didn’t win the Darwin Award.

I think, it's the right way to show mistakes. Thats the way that other people, logger's and especially Firewoodcutters like me can see how things can go wrong and then you can minimize the Risks.

You can't do all jobs with 100% safety. Minimize is the way.
 

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I think, it's the right way to show mistakes.

Could disagree more! For other people’s entertainment is 100% not the right way to show mistakes to industry professionals! The right way to train tree industry workers up is for them to actually have some sort of training from, like you know, an actual trained professional. I can just about guarantee that guy has not had that just by the way he’s moving around the back side of that tree. I can tell he didn’t get trained up the right way. More than likely didn’t get trained at all. Probably watched a bunch of YouTube videos put on a helmet and thought it was good enough. If he had good training he never would have been in the position to be struck by that branch.
 

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I think, it's the right way to show mistakes. Thats the way that other people, logger's and especially Firewoodcutters like me can see how things can go wrong and then you can minimize the Risks
I agree

The right way to train tree industry workers up is for them to actually have some sort of training from, like you know, an actual trained professional.
I agree

Probably watched a bunch of YouTube videos put on a helmet and thought it was good enough. If he had good training he never would have been in the position to be struck by that branch.
Probably, however, I agree with both of you.
Here is why:

The reality is that not everyone who is felling trees has been properly trained.
Showing what can happen when you do something very wrong, in this case several "wrong things", CAN help to educate those who havent taken any professional training. It might get them to invest in "something" that will make them more aware of other hidden dangers, as well as techniques to minimize those dangers. In my case, I was "self taught" my whole life, starting when I was a snot nosed pre-teen. I thought I'd seen it all, untill I didnt. I didnt get hurt, but I saw someone get hurt. That got me thinking, and "investing" in time at my local public library. You see, I'm old enough to have spent LOTS of time in them local public library things, LOOOOONG before the internet was even a thought. I spent several weeks of "here and there" researching how to fell trees, how to read the tree on the ground, how to prevent snaggs, and how to safely get them widow makers down.

Was I trained professionally ? ABSOLUTELY NOT

Did I learn what NOT to do and what to do ? A bunch

What/when/how did I learn the rest ? Time felling trees and reminding myself that I dont know everything, but I know enough to get myself into trouble if I dont follow some basic safety principles when felling a tree. Hanging around that stump to "admire" whatever the snot you want to admire is just asking for it. It is IMPOSSIBLE to predict every situation perfectly, but it is possible to get out of the way of a more dangerous situation, by admiring your own limited time here, and preparing for the accident, so you are aware and avoid it altogether. Allways look up when you can, get away when its on its way, leave a tool if your own safety might be compromised, read the wood and the cut - it's NOT going to magically do what you want it to !!!!!
 

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I agree


I agree


Probably, however, I agree with both of you.
Here is why:

The reality is that not everyone who is felling trees has been properly trained.
Showing what can happen when you do something very wrong, in this case several "wrong things", CAN help to educate those who havent taken any professional training. It might get them to invest in "something" that will make them more aware of other hidden dangers, as well as techniques to minimize those dangers. In my case, I was "self taught" my whole life, starting when I was a snot nosed pre-teen. I thought I'd seen it all, untill I didnt. I didnt get hurt, but I saw someone get hurt. That got me thinking, and "investing" in time at my local public library. You see, I'm old enough to have spent LOTS of time in them local public library things, LOOOOONG before the internet was even a thought. I spent several weeks of "here and there" researching how to fell trees, how to read the tree on the ground, how to prevent snaggs, and how to safely get them widow makers down.

Was I trained professionally ? ABSOLUTELY NOT

Did I learn what NOT to do and what to do ? A bunch

What/when/how did I learn the rest ? Time felling trees and reminding myself that I dont know everything, but I know enough to get myself into trouble if I dont follow some basic safety principles when felling a tree. Hanging around that stump to "admire" whatever the snot you want to admire is just asking for it. It is IMPOSSIBLE to predict every situation perfectly, but it is possible to get out of the way of a more dangerous situation, by admiring your own limited time here, and preparing for the accident, so you are aware and avoid it altogether. Allways look up when you can, get away when its on its way, leave a tool if your own safety might be compromised, read the wood and the cut - it's NOT going to magically do what you want it to !!!!!

I agree with your well reasoned thesis here Kevin. The problem with this video is: how is a person who doesn’t know any better supposed to take any message away from the video other than that he “got lucky” and wear ppe? There was no explanation of what went wrong or that anything even did go wrong.

Maybe he covered it in the follow up video. Idk I didn’t spend my time watching that one, but for someone who only watched that video and doesn’t know what you, me, or the rest of the fellers here do there really isn’t any teaching being done from a very teachable moment. It’s just entertainment without explanation.
 
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