School me on Grinder wheels

[angelo c]

Yes, learning the wheel is important in learning the grinder....learning the chain is paramount in cutting the tree though. I've learned the most from trying different angles/chains/profiles and seeing what works best in my environment and type of trees.

Use the biggest cutter your saw can handle (.404 -3/8)
And stick with a semi chisel as it handles "root" the best long term.


Lots of good info here.

https://www.oregonproducts.com/en/findingtherightsawchainforyou#topic2

 

[Carhartt]

I know Stihl makes a CBN type wheel also. If not mistaken it is advertised as for there carbide chains. I asked the dealer and said it was no benefit to a sharpening standard chain. I am guessing Stihl doesn't make that wheel and just brand stamps it. Assuming CBN or similar makes it.

 

[mitchm1]

I don’t know how makes it but it doesn’t look like any I have ever seen
And it is a true diamond wheel just for carbide only
Steel will tear it up I heard

I have posted and ask how far to take carbide chains back before I hit the base strap or is okay to get into it?

Never heard a peep out any yet

I really don’t want too ruin that wheel


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[Philbert]

I know Stihl makes a CBN type wheel also. If not mistaken it is advertised as for there carbide chains.

CBN / ABN / Borazon grit are for steel cutters only.
Diamond grit is for carbide cutters only.

Philbert

 

[Carhartt]

Where is the best place to shop for a Dinasaw and CBN wheels? I want to order 1 or both to try.

 

[Philbert]

Where is the best place to shop for a Dinasaw and CBN wheels? I want to order 1 or both to try.

DinaSaw wheels are 'ABN' (a variation of CBN as I understand it).

I am the outlier, but I have not been happy with the $100 Diamond Brand CBN wheels I purchased.

Both are available from Bailey's. Diamond Wheel also sells direct, or though Amazon, eBay, etc. Left Coast Supplies was selling the DinaSaw wheels but they seem to have turned off the lights

https://www.baileysonline.com/chainsaws/chainsaw-chain-sharpening/chain-grinding-wheels.html

https://www.diamondwheelinc.com/chain-saw-wheels.html

http://www.dinasaw.com.au/cyclone-abn-grinding-wheels/

Philbert

 

[mitchm1]

Diamond wheel are 115$ or so
I really like mine and I know longevity is there because my Stihl dealer uses them
He tried the cyclone wheel or some brand with slots and told me to stay away


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[Carhartt]

Philbert,
Would you want to sell a Diamond wheel? What arbor size is it?
Are Baileys shipping rates still so high?

 

[Philbert]

Would you want to sell a Diamond wheel?

I get asked that each time I share these thoughts! I am hanging onto them for a while to 'try them again later'. Maybe it's me?

Philbert

 

[mitchm1]

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[Carhartt]

Is there any other brands of CBN/ABN grinding wheels out there? The Cyclone is interesting but the price keeps me away. I see a Temco on ebay, but not specified for benchtop grinders, and not sure on arbor size.

 

[mitchm1]

Diamond wheel brand are $120
And worth every penny



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[old guy]

DinaSaw wheels are 'ABN' (a variation of CBN as I understand it).

I am the outlier, but I have not been happy with the $100 Diamond Brand CBN wheels I purchased.

Both are available from Bailey's. Diamond Wheel also sells direct, or though Amazon, eBay, etc. Left Coast Supplies was selling the DinaSaw wheels but they seem to have turned off the lights

https://www.baileysonline.com/chainsaws/chainsaw-chain-sharpening/chain-grinding-wheels.html

https://www.diamondwheelinc.com/chain-saw-wheels.html

http://www.dinasaw.com.au/cyclone-abn-grinding-wheels/

Philbert

Philbert, I needed a replacement wheel for my .325 grinder, so I got a cbn wheel from Diamond Co., it didn't impress me either until I went to 50°, then it cut a nice hook on the cutter, I normally run 55°.

 

[Philbert]

Maybe I can try that. Thanks.

I was having trouble with them over heating my cutters more than a conventional wheel! Supposed to be the opposite.

Philbert

 

[old guy]

I didn't have that problem.

 

[Carhartt]

I just ordered 2 more Stihl grey stone wheels. I guess ill stick with what I know best. That and my dealer gives me deal on the wheels for some reason. Still under 12.00 a piece, so for that I have no complaints on shaping and cleaning up the edge often.

 

[Larry B]

Maybe I can try that. Thanks.

I was having trouble with them over heating my cutters more than a conventional wheel! Supposed to be the opposite.

Philbert

I have the same problem. Seems worse if the wheel is dirty. I clean it with some acetone and it works better but still have to work slower than the pink wheels to not overheat the cutters.

 

[old guy]

How big a bite are you Guys taking, I just use lite taps and have no burn teeth.
I just did a chain that is about 1/16'' from the end line, there is still 4 or 5 sharps left in that one

 

[Larry B]

I run a small shop so most chains i get look like they were cutting pavement so i have to take off quite a bit. I use a pink wheel on these. For the chains that are just slightly dull i can use the CBN wheel and only take off a few thousandths. If i tried to use the CBN on a trashed chain it would take 3 different passes. Not for $7 a chain.

 

[1990Husky262]

my cbn wheels seemed like they took a while to break in, weren't very aggressive cutting at first and seemed to over heat cutters easily even after trying to clean them especially the 3/16" one. But after i put some time on them they seem to cut better and rarely ever over heat a chain even when taking off a lot of material and i rarely ever have to clean them, But i still fell they are a little slower than the traditional abrasive wheels but continue to use the cbn because i like that they don't produce a bunch of grinding dust