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    I have a 8' x 16', 10K deckover trailer with rub rails and stake pockets. I would like to haul logs (firewood/mill) on it occasionally. I'm thinking of purchasing some 2x4 x 4ft steel to put in the stake pockets to help contain the logs, especially while loading. I will chain the logs, too once I get them loaded. For now, I only feel comfortable with one row, as in the picture below. I know nothing about steel stock, and I see it comes in many different wall thicknesses and prices. Any advice about what would be decent strength without breaking the bank?
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    Is it possible that if you make the upright bolsters too heavy duty that they will make the stake pockets the sacrificial component if the logs move inadvertently?
     
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    I was thinking of that, too. That would be a bad situation.
     
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    How tall a stack of logs are you wanting to haul? Some strait grain oak would work well if you are just looking to go a foot or two. I don't think the stake in pockets are designed to contain that kind of weight real far from the pocket like a log car on a train.
     
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    Yes, that's perfect. I have literally unlimited amounts of oak. Totally agree about the stake pockets not being designed for heavy duty. I was thinking of just being able to get a second row of logs or so.
     
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    Any height over a couple of feet I'd ad in some more bracing to the stake pockets. The oak pieces sound like a good way to start.
     
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    Sounds like we have a consensus: Short, oak 2x4 to keep logs stable until I can chain down. Be cautious not to overload. Thanks for all the help guys!
     
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    Yep, there is no where on that trailer to attach anything strong that will project upwards,
    thus a lot of leverage force will be put on those pockets i see along the trailer side.
    Where the steel cross members under the bed attach to the sides of the trailer would
    be a good place to add new pockets of at least 6 inches vertical height to balance whatever
    uprights are put into them.
     
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    I think you'd have to work at it to overload the trailer.
     
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    Sticking a piece of steel 3 or 4 foot tall into one of those little pockets on that trailer
    will take very little sideways pressure from a load of logs to bend it out.
    I built trailers for 20 years, of all shapes sizes and strengths.
    Spent a great deal of that time repairing what others decided was a good strong job.
     
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    Thank you. Appreciate your experience. From a basic mechanical knowledge says the lever arm gets very strong, very fast. I'm gonna stick with some shorter, wooden stakes to help steady logs until I can get chains on, and conservative loading weights.
     
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    Good wooden stakes would be my choice too, and some chains or straps to hold
    it all together.
     
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    Machine and welding shop 20 years…same. A couple feet and stack ‘em into a sort of pyramid from there.

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    Thanks
     
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    Hopefully you have a scale around you can cruise over. Or weigh some rounds and do some maths.

    I go off how the tires and suspension look. That load above was flat ground straight road 20 minute drive. If I was hauling a distance with curves and stops and gos I’d scale it and probably carry less.
     
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    I'm surprised that trailer wasn't build with duals. That's a good size trailer.
     
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    It’s my friend’s. It’s for bulky lighter weight stuff I guess. Bums me out, not heavy enough to tow my deuce. Need two axles with duals for that. I can build the trailer and have junk around to do it, but the axles are $.
     
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    Just put a tow bar on the duece! Lol!
     
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    With another deuce, or a 5 ton yes…my pickup, maybe not. :-D
     
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