Stihl Solenoid, fuel filter, and Coil info - Called Stihl (March 2019)

[Redbull661]

So I called Stihl this morning and got some up to date info on solenoid and coils for the mtronics. I will try and keep this clear as mud for ya's.

first gen solenoid = Black - pn# 0000 120 5110 - should use with black fuel filter
current gen solenoid = White - pn# 0000 120 5104 - should use with orange fuel filter
new exploratory solenoid that apparently has now been scrapped = Green - pn# 0000 120 5111

orange fuel filter, white solenoid and new coils have 2yr warranty. After that it sounds like stihl will replace parts but you will have to pay labor.

If you have problem on the -

MS241 - he didn't have any info on the 241 yet.

MS261 cm - replace black solenoid to white solenoid and black fuel filter to orange fuel filter. (they are coming out with a kit for this (contains white solenoid and orange fuel filter) Use "RESET" (90sec choke, 60 sec idle, 5 cuts). There are no gen3 control modules/coils thus you don't use "Calibration" (30-40sec choke, 20-30sec WOT, let off after it goes from max to scream back to max )

MS362 cm - same as 261 above.

MS462 cm - all 462s have gen3 control modules/coils, white solenoids, and orange fuel filters. So obviously stick to doing "Calibration" and replacing white solenoid and orange fuel filter with a white solenoid and orange fuel filter.


MS661 cm - little more complicated on the 661...

If control module/coil = 4700c 4700d 4700e(gen1) 4701a(gen2) - then must stick with black solenoid, black fuel filter, and doing the "RESET" (90 sec choke, 60sec idle, 5 cuts). You should not inter change any of the parts ...apparently problems with doing so. For example a white solenoid with 4701a coil and black fuel filter.

If control module/coil = 4702 4703 4704(gen3) - then must stick with white solenoid and orange fuel filter. And of course you do a "Calibration" not a "RESET".

There is a kit specifically for the 661 which includes the ver3 coil, white solenoid, and orange fuel filter 1144 007 1801

 

[DND 9000]

MS261 cm - replace black solenoid to white solenoid and black fuel filter to orange fuel filter. (they are coming out with a kit for this (contains white solenoid and orange fuel filter)

Should be the same kit as on the MS 362 C-M (same parts) 1140 007 1802

Edit: 5/29/2019
It is the same kit!!

 

[Redbull661]

Should be the same kit as on the MS 362 C-M (same parts) 1140 007 1802

based on the price I see for that part # - I would guess it's just the solenoid and fuel filter. Again according to the gentleman I talked to there is no version 3 coil/control module for the 261 or 362.

 

[Gary Courtney]

based on the price I see for that part # - I would guess it's just the solenoid and fuel filter. Again according to the gentleman I talked to there is no version 3 coil/control module for the 261 or 362.

Thanks. This explains why the kit I got had coil in it for 661. I did the 30-60second the full throttle until it went to high rpm then after a few seconds back down then let off throttle. Runs fantastic!

 

[Czed]

So I called Stihl this morning and got some up to date info on solenoid and coils for the mtronics. I will try and keep this clear as mud for ya's.

first gen solenoid = Black - pn# 0000 120 5110 - should use with black fuel filter
current gen solenoid = White - pn# 0000 120 5104 - should use with orange fuel filter
new exploratory solenoid that apparently has now been scrapped = Green - pn# 0000 120 5111

orange fuel filter, white solenoid and new coils have 2yr warranty. After that it sounds like stihl will replace parts but you will have to pay labor.

If you have problem on the -

MS241 - he didn't have any info on the 241 yet.

MS261 cm - replace black solenoid to white solenoid and black fuel filter to orange fuel filter. (they are coming out with a kit for this (contains white solenoid and orange fuel filter) Use "RESET" (90sec choke, 60 sec idle, 5 cuts). There are no gen3 control modules/coils thus you don't use "Calibration" (30-40sec choke, 20-30sec WOT, let off after it goes from max to scream back to max )

MS362 cm - same as 261 above.

MS462 cm - all 462s have gen3 control modules/coils, white solenoids, and orange fuel filters. So obviously stick to doing "Calibration" and replacing white solenoid and orange fuel filter with a white solenoid and orange fuel filter.


MS661 cm - little more complicated on the 661...

If control module/coil = 4700c 4700d 4700e(gen1) 4701a(gen2) - then must stick with black solenoid, black fuel filter, and doing the "RESET" (90 sec choke, 60sec idle, 5 cuts). You should not inter change any of the parts ...apparently problems with doing so. For example a white solenoid with 4701a coil and black fuel filter.

If control module/coil = 4702 4703 4704(gen3) - then must stick with white solenoid and orange fuel filter. And of course you do a "Calibration" not a "RESET".

There is a kit specifically for the 661 which includes the ver3 coil, white solenoid, and orange fuel filter 1144 007 1801

That's alot of work to keep track of that info.
"Carby saws rule"

 

[Moparmyway]

So I called Stihl this morning and got some up to date info on solenoid and coils for the mtronics. I will try and keep this clear as mud for ya's.

first gen solenoid = Black - pn# 0000 120 5110 - should use with black fuel filter
current gen solenoid = White - pn# 0000 120 5104 - should use with orange fuel filter
new exploratory solenoid that apparently has now been scrapped = Green - pn# 0000 120 5111

orange fuel filter, white solenoid and new coils have 2yr warranty. After that it sounds like stihl will replace parts but you will have to pay labor.

If you have problem on the -

MS241 - he didn't have any info on the 241 yet.

MS261 cm - replace black solenoid to white solenoid and black fuel filter to orange fuel filter. (they are coming out with a kit for this (contains white solenoid and orange fuel filter) Use "RESET" (90sec choke, 60 sec idle, 5 cuts). There are no gen3 control modules/coils thus you don't use "Calibration" (30-40sec choke, 20-30sec WOT, let off after it goes from max to scream back to max )

MS362 cm - same as 261 above.

MS462 cm - all 462s have gen3 control modules/coils, white solenoids, and orange fuel filters. So obviously stick to doing "Calibration" and replacing white solenoid and orange fuel filter with a white solenoid and orange fuel filter.


MS661 cm - little more complicated on the 661...

If control module/coil = 4700c 4700d 4700e(gen1) 4701a(gen2) - then must stick with black solenoid, black fuel filter, and doing the "RESET" (90 sec choke, 60sec idle, 5 cuts). You should not inter change any of the parts ...apparently problems with doing so. For example a white solenoid with 4701a coil and black fuel filter.

If control module/coil = 4702 4703 4704(gen3) - then must stick with white solenoid and orange fuel filter. And of course you do a "Calibration" not a "RESET".

There is a kit specifically for the 661 which includes the ver3 coil, white solenoid, and orange fuel filter 1144 007 1801

So the 0000 120 5110 black solenoid is NLA ?

 

[trooney]

So, I put a generation 3 coil on my saw but I think its got the old solenoid and fuel filter from a 4700 on it. You mean I now have to get the white solenoid and orange fuel filter?

 

[Redbull661]

So, I put a generation 3 coil on my saw but I think its got the old solenoid and fuel filter from a 4700 on it. You mean I now have to get the white solenoid and orange fuel filter?

that is what the dude said. but I've done the same exact thing and the saw ran fine. So I don't see why you would if the saw was running fine.

So the 0000 120 5110 black solenoid is NLA ?

no 5110 is still available. I would suspect it will be for some time.

 

[sawfun]

This makes me glad to be stuck in the past with my "0" series Stihls. I can see the electronics being supported down the line like the 056 Mag ll was. After a 5 - 10 years, no parts available. Though I guess it wont bother loggers and bucks up tree companies.

 

[DND 9000]

based on the price I see for that part # - I would guess it's just the solenoid and fuel filter. Again according to the gentleman I talked to there is no version 3 coil/control module for the 261 or 362.

Edit: Maybe I´m wrong. V.3 is not mentioned on the newer MS 362 C-M. The newer version from the serial number 183609631 has the newer calibration method, but this does not automatically mean it`s m-tronic v.3. The newer full throttle calibration process is introduced since v2.1 and higher.

Right there is no v.3 for the MS 261 C-M, but
from serial no. 183609631 the MS 362 C-M has a new control unit and other new parts. (carburetor, solenoid valve and so on.)

 

[sawmikaze]

Im with you julie..but I have no idea what the difference the color of the fuel filter makes..i put one of those new orange fuel filters in a few saws with old solenoids and they run fine..

 

[huskyboy]

Im with you julie..but I have no idea what the difference the color of the fuel filter makes..i put one of those new orange fuel filters in a few saws with old solenoids and they run fine..

Finer mesh filter I think if I’m not mistaken?

 

[sawmikaze]

Finer mesh filter I think if I’m not mistaken?

I have no idea.

 

[tree monkey]

I have no idea.

yes we know

 

[kfd518]

So I called Stihl this morning and got some up to date info on solenoid and coils for the mtronics. I will try and keep this clear as mud for ya's.

first gen solenoid = Black - pn# 0000 120 5110 - should use with black fuel filter
current gen solenoid = White - pn# 0000 120 5104 - should use with orange fuel filter
new exploratory solenoid that apparently has now been scrapped = Green - pn# 0000 120 5111

orange fuel filter, white solenoid and new coils have 2yr warranty. After that it sounds like stihl will replace parts but you will have to pay labor.

If you have problem on the -

MS241 - he didn't have any info on the 241 yet.

MS261 cm - replace black solenoid to white solenoid and black fuel filter to orange fuel filter. (they are coming out with a kit for this (contains white solenoid and orange fuel filter) Use "RESET" (90sec choke, 60 sec idle, 5 cuts). There are no gen3 control modules/coils thus you don't use "Calibration" (30-40sec choke, 20-30sec WOT, let off after it goes from max to scream back to max )

MS362 cm - same as 261 above.

MS462 cm - all 462s have gen3 control modules/coils, white solenoids, and orange fuel filters. So obviously stick to doing "Calibration" and replacing white solenoid and orange fuel filter with a white solenoid and orange fuel filter.


MS661 cm - little more complicated on the 661...

If control module/coil = 4700c 4700d 4700e(gen1) 4701a(gen2) - then must stick with black solenoid, black fuel filter, and doing the "RESET" (90 sec choke, 60sec idle, 5 cuts). You should not inter change any of the parts ...apparently problems with doing so. For example a white solenoid with 4701a coil and black fuel filter.

If control module/coil = 4702 4703 4704(gen3) - then must stick with white solenoid and orange fuel filter. And of course you do a "Calibration" not a "RESET".

There is a kit specifically for the 661 which includes the ver3 coil, white solenoid, and orange fuel filter 1144 007 1801

That blows, just put a black one in one of my 261’s oh well such is life.

 

[Woodpecker]

No 201 Infos gives me the sads... You be slackin Julian.

 

[DND 9000]

Finer mesh filter I think if I’m not mistaken?

Yes finer mesh filter.

white pickup body (older version) 30 micron
orange pickup body (current version) 15 micron

 

[Gary Courtney]

So, I put a generation 3 coil on my saw but I think its got the old solenoid and fuel filter from a 4700 on it. You mean I now have to get the white solenoid and orange fuel filter?

with the black solenoid still on would you do the 3.0 calibration or the 2.0 reset procedure? I bought the entire kit for $74.95

 

[RI Chevy]

Good info. Thanks for doing this for all of us Julian and Scott!

 

[CR888]

Good useful info for those who may need it. So fitting a quality felt Walbo fuel filter is a big no no with these new saws? Them vintage little orange screwdrivers that we all once had too many of & gave to anyone who would take one are fast becoming highly rare exotic hard to source tools. Good luck finding an AM V3 coil down the road when you buy a cheap builder saw.