Stihl 009L

[Jeff Lary]

Moderators I think? I have placed this in the correctish? thread if not please feel free to move it wherever it should be.
A great friend of mine gave me this saw. He bought it new for his father back in 1987, I think? It needed a good clean up and sharpening, IF it ran. Well, it does run the low-speed circuit needed to be opened up about a 1/2 turn I'm sure it would benefit from a Carb rebuild too, but I wanted to see if it ran first. here are some before pictures I believe it is an extremely low use saw. Do you have one? or did you ever have one? if so what did you think of yours and what should I watch out for if I end up using it very much. Here are some pics

 

[Jeff Lary]

One more photo, the Green safety warning label is still on the chain brake lever as you will see in the next round of pictures.

 

[Jeff Lary]

I honestly did not have to do much to it, it has a wonderful purple spark when seen though my spark plug tester window. I dumped out the old gas it was quite rich in color I am guessing this may be 40:1? I put in a little new 50:1 and a few extra drops of 2-stroke oil and shook the heck out of it. I had to prime the carb some but after 10-15 pulls she took off. It would not take throttle from idle without stalling out, so I richened the mixture a bit on the low-speed jet, and it seemed to run pretty well after that.
I just now took my Polaris side by side and the dog and went out back to the woodlot to pack down my main twitch trail. It's about 3/8 of a mile to the wood yard from where I want to cut this year. I wanted to get that done because we had about 6 inches of heavy wet snow last night on top of 8", we got a few days ago. The weather dude says we have single digit temps coming for the weekend and it will freeze up nice. I had a couple small trees down, so I used the little Stihl to cut them up and it ran fine. Here are some after photos. I don't have anything else to offer just wanted to show an old saw I guess have a great day. JeffinMaine

 

[Basher]

I resurrected one 4-5 years back and cut a couple limbs off a standing tree with it, never used it since, have the 011 and 012,015 and 020, all used the same amount, just fixed them cause they came free to me just needing a few inexpensive bits, they run fine but I am a bigger saw guy, my ported 026`s are the smallest saws I find use for. The 026, 036, Ms362 are my smaller saw group, they do more work for me than the other 30 or so kicking around my feet.

 

[Jeff Lary]

Yes,
I really don't have a specific use for it, I will run it a bit from time to time. For now, I will keep it in the back of my Ranger for lately with all the wind we get there always seems to be a tree between me and where I wish to go.

 

[Basher]

Yes,
I really don't have a specific use for it, I will run it a bit from time to time. For now, I will keep it in the back of my Ranger for lately with all the wind we get there always seems to be a tree between me and where I wish to go.

I have collected up far too many chainsaws, but actually only outright bought a few of them,most of them were left at repair shops and dealers where the cost of repair was higher than the owners wanting to pay. Cost really piles up when shop labor is added on the parts required. Just a clutch can add up to more than $200. for a new replacement +labor. I keep a 34 cc Makita that cost me nada but its a very reliable small saw, great for a truck saw, keep the chain super sharp it is good enough to cut a 16" or under dia stick out of the way of a blocked road. I carry a heavy tow strap under the seat so can pull a 12' long stick out of the way easily.

 

[LAWN BOY]

Very nice saw.

 

[Jeff Lary]

I too have a less than high dollar saw I am trying to resurrect. It is a Homelite / Poulan I think?-- 33cc Ranger. It is also a 16" bar saw 3/8 low pro chain. I used it quite a bit 10 years ago or so and as I remember it ran pretty well too.
The other day after tugging on my Dolmar 5105 10 -15 times before it started, thank God it finally did my shoulder did not enjoy that, I thought boy it would be nice to have a small easier to start saw right about now. Then I remembered my 33 Ranger.
I took it off the shelf and it would run but not very well. So I ordered a K-10 wat rebuild kit and got that installed about 7days ago. It ran better but flooded badly? When I went to start it after sitting 2 days it spit about a 1/5th of a cup of mix out of the muffler. I gave it a few nights to mull over in my mind. Then I remembered what the issue might be. I remembered that the metering lever was a touch high. So, I took it apart again and discovered another reason for flooding at least I think so. I was right, the lever was maybe 2 mm too high but the biggest issue at least I think so? was that I had installed the lever upside down as in nipple facing the sky instead of facing down into the spring. It seems to run much better, but I have not gone to the woods with it either.

 

[Basher]

I too have a less than high dollar saw I am trying to resurrect. It is a Homelite / Poulan I think?-- 33cc Ranger. It is also a 16" bar saw 3/8 low pro chain. I used it quite a bit 10 years ago or so and as I remember it ran pretty well too.
The other day after tugging on my Dolmar 5105 10 -15 times before it started, thank God it finally did my shoulder did not enjoy that, I thought boy it would be nice to have a small easier to start saw right about now. Then I remembered my 33 Ranger.
I took it off the shelf and it would run but not very well. So I ordered a K-10 wat rebuild kit and got that installed about 7days ago. It ran better but flooded badly? When I went to start it after sitting 2 days it spit about a 1/5th of a cup of mix out of the muffler. I gave it a few nights to mull over in my mind. Then I remembered what the issue might be. I remembered that the metering lever was a touch high. So, I took it apart again and discovered another reason for flooding at least I think so. I was right, the lever was maybe 2 mm too high but the biggest issue at least I think so? was that I had installed the lever upside down as in nipple facing the sky instead of facing down into the spring. It seems to run much better, but I have not gone to the woods with it either.

One thing I just cannot do is to bring myself to work on any of the cheap disposable plastic chainsaws so I have very little advice to give anyone working on them. When I work on a metal chassis saw and get it where I want it then I expect it to last me many more years than a cheapy. The shops I worked at would not let us work on them as the labor would exceed their worth. What I hear about them is that any and all fuel handling components are very susceptible to degradation from the ethanol in pump gas and go to heck very often, fuel lines,filters and carbs don`t seem to last. If you can work on them and replace enough parts they may run enough to pay you back, just not for me. I have enough Sachs Dolmar,Makita and Stihl saws to last out my lifetime, no real need for me to build more. These days I maintain the collection I have, built my latest 044 this past spring and put 30 odd hours on it, start up the Makita DCS 34 now and then to do a trim job or shorten up a too long firewood stick.

 

[Stump Shot]

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One thing I just cannot do is to bring myself to work on any of the cheap disposable plastic chainsaws so I have very little advice to give anyone working on them. When I work on a metal chassis saw and get it where I want it then I expect it to last me many more years than a cheapy. The shops I worked at would not let us work on them as the labor would exceed their worth. What I hear about them is that any and all fuel handling components are very susceptible to degradation from the ethanol in pump gas and go to heck very often, fuel lines,filters and carbs don`t seem to last. If you can work on them and replace enough parts they may run enough to pay you back, just not for me. I have enough Sachs Dolmar,Makita and Stihl saws to last out my lifetime, no real need for me to build more. These days I maintain the collection I have, built my latest 044 this past spring and put 30 odd hours on it, start up the Makita DCS 34 now and then to do a trim job or shorten up a too long firewood stick.

I had one years ago and fixed it up like you say to, ran it for one season doing little clean up jobs here and there until one day the coil went out and as Porky Pig would say, "That's All Folks".

 

[Jeff Lary]

Yes, it doesn't take much time to outweigh their worth for certain. You could never afford to have a shop tinker on a hundred dollar saw for sure.

 

[LAWN BOY]

I wouldn't mind putting lots of work into one of these actually as I'd like one in my collection. I actually know of a guy that just paid $300 for a fully operational one, that's quite a bit much imo.

 

[Basher]

Three hundred for a plastic saw? That is about $250. more than any of them is worth, my trash pile has several in it, Poulan Woodsharks,Wild Things, those bright orange Homelite things with the yellow recoil handles, not worth the effort to repair them. I actually used to run over them with the 20 ton excavator just to make them more compact for the scrap bin, now I just won`t allow them to stay here,problem solved.

 

[LAWN BOY]

Three hundred for a plastic saw? That is about $250. more than any of them is worth, my trash pile has several in it, Poulan Woodsharks,Wild Things, those bright orange Homelite things with the yellow recoil handles, not worth the effort to repair them. I actually used to run over them with the 20 ton excavator just to make them more compact for the scrap bin, now I just won`t allow them to stay here,problem solved.

I agree a 009 is only worth $50-$100 at most. I agree the saws you mentioned aren’t really worth repairing, but I like to save them or sell them for parts rather than scrap or destroy them.

 

[Basher]

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I had one years ago and fixed it up like you say to, ran it for one season doing little clean up jobs here and there until one day the coil went out and as Porky Pig would say, "That's All Folks".

People get all *b-wordy when I tell them I won`t work on them due to the cost outweighing the replacement of one. Last guy I had words with was adamant that I had fixed his friends Homelite and I should fix his Homelite that had a busted up recoil. When I told him his friends Homelite was a real saw, an Super XL A and that his shiny new plastic saw was not a Homelite. He argued it was because it said Homelite on the cover. I had to tell him it was a plastic piece of crap and get the thing out of here before I crush it. Don`t leave it here because I won`t change my mind and that it would only disappear.

 

[Basher]

I agree a 009 is only worth $50-$100 at most. I agree the saws you mentioned aren’t really worth repairing, but I like to save them or sell them for parts rather than scrap or destroy them.

If you have the time and patience to strip them down and try selling off the parts that may suite you, I don`t have the space or inclination to mess with them. Actually the 009 is a much better saw than any plastic fantastic saw ever sold, their oil pumps are a bit of a problem but I have fixed many of them and they are still running. I only saved one for myself and it has hardly been used, maybe 15 mins or less.

 

[LAWN BOY]

If you have the time and patience to strip them down and try selling off the parts that may suite you, I don`t have the space or inclination to mess with them. Actually the 009 is a much better saw than any plastic fantastic saw ever sold, their oil pumps are a bit of a problem but I have fixed many of them and they are still running. I only saved one for myself and it has hardly been used, maybe 15 mins or less.

I agree saws like the 009 are very good for being plastic saws compared to the others.

 

[Jeff Lary]

Boy I opened a can of Bright Red with yellow recoil handled plastic worms here, didn't I? The 009 will get run occasionally as I think it may be a very low hour saw, and it ought to stay that way.