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sean silverwood

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anyone changed one of these drive pinion gears or got the IPL/manual for one of these mother *f-worders.
sorry for the language guys buts it pissed me right off today :)
 

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Yeah I rebuild one, what exactly do you want to know? How to get to it to remove it. I had to replace cooked bearings after a Stihl dealer told the previous owner it was 'unrepairable' so he put it on EBay for cheap & I bought & fixed it. He ran it with a missing grease cap nut until it seized up and broke bearing races. They can be a little tricky but heat is your friend to expand the mag case to get bearings out. Have you got the workshop manual?
 

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need to replace the pinion here(arrowed) but all the bearing have come out and its just rattling about in the races.
bloody expensive too. my suppliers want £175 GBP for the full unit.
i was hoping just to change the bearings because the splines on the drive look fine.
 

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I fixed a drive pinion on a HL135 head for a KM90 hedge trimmer and it cost me €14! That price was for two new bearings (see red highlight on exploded diagram). I bought the trimmer in 2011. It came to a stop in 2016. I opened the gear housing, stripped it down and discovered two busted bearings under the drive pinion (see red highlight on photo). I contacted Stihl and they said I would have to buy the whole unit which had the pole arm attached! €175 at the time. I was busy and needed the trimmer so I went ahead and bought it, all the while cursing Stihl for bad design and bad customer after care. Two days ago the same bearings went again!

Firstly I checked to see if I could get the same as last time; the full HL135 unit, but to my horror, it had gone up in price to €300+! WTF! So I searched around and discovered I could buy a set of pinions which would replace all three in the drive. But dang they would cost £88+ VAT and I only needed one, so I decided to try and remove the two busted bearings. Through a bit of messing around and improvising I managed to get the pinion out of it's housing. Then I got the top sprocket pulled off the shaft, leaving access for removing the bearings.

The local plant hire in Buncrana sold bearings. I took the old shells to them and got an exact match. €7 each. I went home and fitted them and fired up the trimmer and all was good.

PS. I used two 19mm open ended spanners on their edge as levers to extract the pinion. Once off, I jammed the pinion in an adjustable wrench and again used the two 19mm spanners on their edge to lever off the sprocket. I clamped a pair of vice grips on to what remained of the busted bearings and once more used two 19mm spanners to lever them off the shaft.


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I was gonna say, if it’s just the bearings, they are cheap. The fix is fiddly, but it is possible if you think about it and study the ipl (cir-clips and any other hidden things)

I know it’s not the same but I fixed a hitachi hedge trimmer where the bearings did as you said (seized solid). They cost me a morning and £5

I guess with stihl it’s cheap to make and expensive to fix. “Made in China can’t fix in the uk”

anyhow let us know how you get on ;)
 
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