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I must admit that I really like my Makita 6401 with the big bore kit upgrade on board:
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I usually carry a 25" bar on it, but occasionally I bump up to a 32". This saw never complains, always starts, and always runs well. Thanks for looking.
 

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461 and 372 oe get my votes. 461 beats a 372 for grunt, and while the XPW has grunt the 461 has better response. A woods ported XPW reminds me of a 461 with better a/v. Can't speak for Dul-more's, hybrid I had lacked grunt, 281 was vibey, SP81 just didn't knock my socks off. I will say this, for a non-ported work saw I'd pick a Max-flowed, muff-gutted 461 over a 372. Only downside to the 461 is the $$$ of Stihl parts. I was looking at $300 for a bare tank and full wrap for a 1128 while Jacks (which is usually on the pricier end) lists a 372 tank for $154. Throw in a $40 wrap kit and you're still $100 cheaper.
 

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461 and 372 oe get my votes. 461 beats a 372 for grunt, and while the XPW has grunt the 461 has better response. A woods ported XPW reminds me of a 461 with better a/v. Can't speak for Dul-more's, hybrid I had lacked grunt, 281 was vibey, SP81 just didn't knock my socks off. I will say this, for a non-ported work saw I'd pick a Max-flowed, muff-gutted 461 over a 372. Only downside to the 461 is the $$$ of Stihl parts. I was looking at $300 for a bare tank and full wrap for a 1128 while Jacks (which is usually on the pricier end) lists a 372 tank for $154. Throw in a $40 wrap kit and you're still $100 cheaper.
Too bad the xpw cylinders aren’t available anymore.
 

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ProMac800 ,Homelite 944VI both have fairly decent anti-vibe. Not the fastest for sure but you can get a sizable bruise on your thigh from lifting the handle dogged in a 50" peice of oak without the saw noticing! I consistently used these with 28-32" full comp 8 pin sprockets.
I do have a Bastard I really like also ,which is my MS441 big bore. Its got a anti-vibe like Husqvarna and a 76cc top end that makes gobbs of torque. I had to do a bunch of grinding on the AM cylinder to straighten it out, but that saw flat out runs great and gets good fuel mileage. With as terrible as the cylinder was I imagine it'll go on me someday but it's fun until that happens.
 

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I’m waiting on some crab cakes and ended up reading this thread. MS250 hands down. You don’t agree, GFY…. ;)

I want a 500i, and need one like a hole in my head. Instead I decided to get my 7910 ported (on a wait list) and put the rest toward a new Laguna bandsaw.
 

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Tree Sling’r 372XPW. I ran that thing back… Geez it’s been a while because you could still buy a new MS460 off any dealer’s shelf you wanted, but it beat the pants off an MS460 he had ported.

I know it’s not a popular choice, and probably surprising, but I haven’t run a ported Dolmar, but in my use I always felt like the MS461 got the same work done as a 7900 with a long bar, and the 460 was closer to it with a short bar on, and while I may be nuts, by deductive reasoning I’m putting my money on Mr. Reynolds’ 74.7 CC 372.

I’m sure there are other saws in that area right over 81, but by the standards set forth in the thread, it’s the most impressive in its class that I have used.
 
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Echo cs 8000/800p/qv-8000 had a production run from 1985 to 2020. Last of the new but discontinued 800p's sold in early 2022.

Over 35 years, no recalls or flaws or serious problems. Quite an accomplishment. At roughly 16 lbs, 1.5 lbs lighter than a new 585 husq. I've heard folks claim they're heavy, but I think the weight is appropriate. Perfect balance with a solid 28" bar.

The press-fit metal oiler gears on the 8000/800p never strip, like the plastic ones on other saws. They'll over-oil a 36" bar. I like the manual oiler for instantly freeing up a frozen, below zero bar at start-up. Finger adjustable idle is pretty sweet, I always seem to use it. No decomp bllsht and a nice d-handle on the qv models.

Unlimited ignition coils and no carb governor bllsht like some of the 81 cc husq saws.

Fire departments all over the country used them as a qv-8000 (quick-vent) saws with carbide chain on a special downward-pointed bar.

The qv surplus saws are a good way to get into 81 cc's of muscle saw for cheap. But cutting into asphalt and metal roofs shows unique damage to these saws that you may not ever have seen:

Flame damage to air intake. Bits of metal and abrasive shingle remnants vibrating around the flywheel and rubber lines causing pinholes in rubber lines. Excessive vibration rattling screws loose. Excessive abrasion to the entire exterior.

I'm porting one right now. I've seen them sell for $225-$400.

Converting to a regular chainsaw:
The steel armor plate uses long screws. Those 3 screws will need to be replaced with shorter ones.

A set of felling dogs+hardware will need to be ordered.

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As much as my 046 has been great to me for the last 25 years, my 500i has my heart. No doubt.

How to these 2 compare? I have a 500 and it is my go to saw pretty much all the time. I've always wanted an 064 but keep talking myself out of it because of the rubber AV. Not sure if it matters but my first saw was a ms390 and it made my hands go numb. I though that was normal until I got a 261 and realized my hands didnt have to feel that way after 1 tank of fuel. I've never had another rubber av saw since but maybe its time to try again.
 
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