working on other builders saws

[tree monkey]

a few days ago a guy comes to the shop with a few saws looking to 1 or more ported. amongst these was a saw done by another porter. I asked what was up with it. it doesn't run, no compression. he had talked to the other porter and there was no problem sending it back for repair. he asked I I would look at it to see if it would be cheaper for me to fix the saw or if it should be sent back.

what would all of you do?

 

[redoakneck]

Be honest, check it out. Just a machine, stuff happens.

Not a child or truck ??

Flame away!!!

 

[paragonbuilder]

Open communication between the three of you would be my approach. If the builder and the customer are ok with you looking at it then cool.
If i had built the saw, I would have no issue with you looking at it to save on shipping.


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[Czed]

a few days ago a guy comes to the shop with a few saws looking to 1 or more ported. amongst these was a saw done by another porter. I asked what was up with it. it doesn't run, no compression. he had talked to the other porter and there was no problem sending it back for repair. he asked I I would look at it to see if it would be cheaper for me to fix the saw or if it should be sent back.

what would all of you do?

What's the harm in checking it out for the customer i check out saws and equipment pretty regularly for people most want it fixed some are curious what happened but you saw porter's are funny lol

 

[redoakneck]

Take pictures, take it apart in front of the judge.

Honesty goes a long way!!!

 

[redoakneck]

Take one of them muffler modded saws to a dealer, most of them can't return it with said illegal mods.

Now who is going to ask who is the original Porter???

There, the elephant has been spotted!!

 

[paragonbuilder]

Take one of them muffler modded saws to a dealer, most of them can't return it with said illegal mods.

Now who is going to ask who is the original Porter???

There, the elephant has been spotted!!

Who cares. He is standing behind it. That's all that matters. All builders have saws that develop issues whether from their work or not.


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[mdavlee]

I have been asked by another guy that ports saws if I cared if he worked on it. I told him no. He had a whole lot more experience than I have.

 

[srcarr52]

I'd take a quick look at it, after all things do just wear out. If it looks like it failed prematurely due to the modifications I'd contact the original builder immediately and get them in the loop. Plus, shipping can be expensive and if its a simple fix I'd much rather have someone closer, who I know is more than capable, fix the saw and save the owner some money.

To go further, I have fixed things done by other porters that where an obviously mistake. I don't post any pictures or raise any fuss. I just make a mental note not to do the same myself and move on.

 

[tree monkey]

the other porter is very well known, builds both race and work saws, and I consider him a friend. his name will not be mentioned.

I agreed to at leased look at it and diagnose the cause.

 

[Mastermind]

I have worked on saws by damn near every saw builder you ever heard of. I just had an Ed Heard saw on my bench.

After awhile they all just look the same any way.

Fix it.......

 

[tree monkey]

I talked to the saw owner about what he used for oil, ratio, fuel. how he liked the saw when it ran, things like that.

stihl white bottle, 50;1. he liked the saw but it never idled right. said it only lasted about 50 hrs.

I don't think he retuned it when he got. my first thought was bad tune or air leak and it's lean scored.

 

[Mastermind]

I don't think he retuned it when he got.

My biggest fear........

 

[redoakneck]

Fifty hours isn't a tank or two!!!

 

[junkman]

Was he using blue oil ?


Edit : you guys reply faster than i can type

 

[tree monkey]

I took the thing apart and it became very interesting, the failure is by no means the fault of the builder.

 

[tree monkey]

what don't you see?

 

[junkman]

I talked to the saw owner about what he used for oil, ratio, fuel. how he liked the saw when it ran, things like that.

stihl white bottle, 50;1. he liked the saw but it never idled right. said it only lasted about 50 hrs.

I don't think he retuned it when he got. my first thought was bad tune or air leak and it's lean scored.

Don't most builders recommend 40 to 1 ?Once saw is modded to help with the extra stress of more power output ? Never heard of white bottle stihl .ultra is silver bottle isn't it ?

 

[junkman]

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what don't you see?

Looks pretty dry sir .

 

[tree monkey]

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