Stumping saw question - 395xp vs MS661

[huskyboy]

You can put a late model 390 clutch on a 385 as an upgrade, it’s a coil spring style and a bit stronger. I was going to on my 385 but never got to it.

 

[huskyboy]

I keep mentioning the clutch on saws... because it is a very important part. If you think about it when a car is upgraded and modified like we port our saws... the clutch or transmission is upgraded as well to handle the extra power if needed. At least that’s the way I look at it.

 

[huskyboy]

http://www.madsens1.com/saw_clutch.htm Some interesting reading from madsen’s.

 

[GCJenks204]

Red Heads are always sexier!!!

Until you marry one... Just don’t...

Why do we call them redheads when they are black tops and red bottoms?

 

[usmcbuckwild]

Until you marry one... Just don’t...

Why do we call them redheads when they are black tops and red bottoms?

Because red is what color YOUR head is after running one......

 

[huskihl]

Because red is what color YOUR head is after running one......

Until you marry one... Just don’t...

Why do we call them redheads when they are black tops and red bottoms?

Safer to just call them firecrotch.

Wait. We talking women or saws?

 

[GCJenks204]

Safer to just call them firecrotch.

Wait. We talking women or saws?

If it was redheaded women I would go with Cray Cray...

 

[Deets066]

Tops can change, bottoms always designate...

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

28-40" hardwood- would you run a Ported 395 or a Ported MS661?
Poll closed Dec 2, 2018.

1. 
   395XP
   37 vote(s)
   72.5%
2. 
   MS661
   7 vote(s)
   13.7%
3. 
   Dinosaur Iron
   7 vote(s)
   13.7%

Looks like the Swedes won this poll

 

[Nutball]

395 will oil a 42”
And who would want to stump with a new shiney 661?

I was just about to mention that. On the Husqvarna website the 395 and 390 supposedly have the same oiler flow ratings and are both recommended a max bar of 28". I've found that a 28" is the biggest I'd want to run on my 2188 (390) with the oiler at max, it starts to dry out a 32" fully buried. However, I have run a 42", and it did work, but was very dry, so before I had to use the 42" again I modified my oiler todo about a half tank oil per tank of gas minimum, and dump 1.5-2 (I can't remember for sure) tanks of oil per tank of gas on max. It really helps it pull a buried 42" chain.

I've heard the 395 is a good stump saw, and with my experience the 660 cuts too similarly to a muffler modded 390 for me to want to pick it over a 395. I'm still unsure about a 661 though, they are pretty strong, I've just never run a 395 to compare.

 

[Wolverine]

I was just about to mention that. On the Husqvarna website the 395 and 390 supposedly have the same oiler flow ratings and are both recommended a max bar of 28”.

 

[Deets066]

I was just about to mention that. On the Husqvarna website the 395 and 390 supposedly have the same oiler flow ratings and are both recommended a max bar of 28". I've found that a 28" is the biggest I'd want to run on my 2188 (390) with the oiler at max, it starts to dry out a 32" fully buried. However, I have run a 42", and it did work, but was very dry, so before I had to use the 42" again I modified my oiler todo about a half tank oil per tank of gas minimum, and dump 1.5-2 (I can't remember for sure) tanks of oil per tank of gas on max. It really helps it pull a buried 42" chain.

I've heard the 395 is a good stump saw, and with my experience the 660 cuts too similarly to a muffler modded 390 for me to want to pick it over a 395. I'm still unsure about a 661 though, they are pretty strong, I've just never run a 395 to compare.

394-395 are a beast to reckon with when they’re ported.

 

[mdavlee]

I’ve run a 50” on 385/390, 394/5, 660, and 661. 394/5 oils it no problem. The rest struggle without Oiler mods.

 

[huskyboy]

The 395 oiler outputs the same flow at lower rpm as the 390 oiler does at higher rpm. That’s where the confusion comes from reading the paper specs. In reality the 395 oils noticeably more as Mike said. The 394 was rated for a 4 foot bar stock and it has the same oiler as a 395.

 

[huskyboy]

I found the newer style 372/390 oiler with the metal drive tab seems to output better than the older ones with the all plastic driver.

 

[Master Bud II]

Haven't run a 385 or 390 so I can't speak on that. I do own a mostly stock 288 and pretty stoutly built 394. Also run stock 395 and BG deleted 394 at my work. IMHO when the work gets into bigger bars say 36" and up (like stumping or flushing off 5' roadside maple) the 394/5 have the torque to pull it off. I just don't see a 288 being close to them for that kind of application. Going on my experience with my specific 288 I think 32" buried in big knarly stuff is about the upper limit of the 288s comfort zone. There's just something about 394/5 that makes them quite a bit stronger than a 288 in this area than you would think 7cc should gain them. Just my opinion based on my limited experience...and you know about opinions .

Don't get me wrong, I love a 288. Just think that the 394/5 outclasses it in this situation by a fair margin.

What does " BG " deleted mean ??? Can't quite figure that out ???

 

[Bigmac]

What does " BG " deleted mean ??? Can't quite figure that out ???

Base gasket

 

[Dub11]

What does " BG " deleted mean ??? Can't quite figure that out ???

Base Gasket. Most saws you can remove it and it'll give a good bump in compression.

If you own a 044 then a BGD TA MM and a HD2 will give it special holy grail unicorn status.

Or them 4 things are also know as
"The Treatment "

 

[Master Bud II]

Until you marry one... Just don’t...

Why do we call them redheads when they are black tops and red bottoms?

I have married two red's, now dating another.
God I Need Help !!!!

Is there A 27 1/2 step Treatment ??? 12 just isn't going to Cut It...

Goth girl, With Spanked bottom

 

[Master Bud II]

I was just about to mention that. On the Husqvarna website the 395 and 390 supposedly have the same oiler flow ratings and are both recommended a max bar of 28". I've found that a 28" is the biggest I'd want to run on my 2188 (390) with the oiler at max, it starts to dry out a 32" fully buried. However, I have run a 42", and it did work, but was very dry, so before I had to use the 42" again I modified my oiler todo about a half tank oil per tank of gas minimum, and dump 1.5-2 (I can't remember for sure) tanks of oil per tank of gas on max. It really helps it pull a buried 42" chain.

I've heard the 395 is a good stump saw, and with my experience the 660 cuts too similarly to a muffler modded 390 for me to want to pick it over a 395. I'm still unsure about a 661 though, they are pretty strong, I've just never run a 395 to compare.

I thought you were supposed to go through a tank of oil to a tank of gas, That's how My saw's are set up, even My 262 with a 20" bar goes through 3/4+ tank of Oil, to tank of gas ???
Oil is Cheap compared to the Bar & Chain.
Or Am I Wrong on this ???

( edit ) the reason I'm probably on the conservative end of this discussion, the chainsaw I was Borrowing, Was My next door neighbor, some 50cc Monkey wards saw, did good for what I needed, whenI got done, the other naybor asked to borrow the saw next, said ' O ' yea, already talked to him All is Well, Ok hears the gas & oil, this is how to start it & stop. Check the chain Stretch... And Dont force It, Raill road Ties are Hard & Nasty, just take it easy.... Well two days later he returned the saw........
Instantly Houston, We have a Problem... the bar looks like a Ciyth or crescent moon, & chain hung about 6" below the Non - Existent bar edge, Tes That's How Muchof the bar was Missing. All the paint burned Off, and many Beautiful Colors, Straw, purple, Dark Blue, and even some Black. The chain Stretched Minimum 20% probably 30-36%, and the naybor said it stopped cutting, so here you go, the Funny thing Was the oil bottle Was Just as Full as when he borrowed it... when I asked why the bottle was full, he said you Filled it when you gave it to Me, but the gas can was Empty, The Morale of the Story,,, " Dont Rent Pigs to Retardes