Simington / Silvey Square Chain Grinders Tips/Tricks/Secrets

[Time's Standing Stihl]

It seemed that way to me as well about the corner but couldn’t tell if it was my eyes playing with me I noticed that last night about the gauges and checked them they are slightly above a..025 depth gauge measure gonna re check with straight and feelers later

If your just bucking, it'll be fine. If a person is doing a lot of bore cutting with lots of forward lean and low rakers, you're asking for troubles.

Just my .02

 

[Skeans1]

If your just bucking, it'll be fine. If a person is doing a lot of bore cutting with lots of forward lean and low rakers, you're asking for troubles.

Just my .02

Shouldn’t be an issue my chains are setup pretty close to that with the rakers a touch lower normally and can bore the back cut after the first face has gone in.


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[Time's Standing Stihl]

Shouldn’t be an issue my chains are setup pretty close to that with the rakers a touch lower normally and can bore the back cut after the first face has gone in.


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Fibers from a Fir pull totally different than from a Hickory or Oak....

I cut nothing but hardwoods and i know what works for me. What works for me, might not be aggressive enough for you.

Applications may vary....

 

[Skeans1]

Fibers from a Fir pull totally different than from a Hickory or Oak....

I cut nothing but hardwoods and i know what works for me. What works for me, might not be aggressive enough for you.

Applications may vary....

I also cut hardwoods out here, it’s all not just fir, also fir fibers are super strong think of the hinge amounts we leave vs your hardwoods.


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[Time's Standing Stihl]

I also cut hardwoods out here, it’s all not just fir, also fir fibers are super strong think of the hinge amounts we leave vs your hardwoods.


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So you're saying your hardwoods cut the same as your softwoods?

 

[Skeans1]

So you're saying your hardwoods cut the same as your softwoods?

What I’m saying is a Doug fir is not like cutting a real fir it’s a harder wood and stronger. Our alder out here is what you’d call a chairing sob but I can setup the chain the same and after the first cut it’ll keep up with it no problem.


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[kfd518]

Fibers from a Fir pull totally different than from a Hickory or Oak....

I cut nothing but hardwoods and i know what works for me. What works for me, might not be aggressive enough for you.

Applications may vary....

Hardwood chains around here will rip through western juniper like nobody’s business until you get to the old trees then they grab like a son of a gun. They like even less top plate angle than oak does. Live oak either species around here is pretty darn soft for a hardwood while it’s alive but start cutting dead standing and the top plate has to become more shallow and the side angle also has to shallow up as well as knocking the cutting edge angle down or else it’ll do nothing but grab and dulls super fast.

 

[kfd518]

Your rakers look plenty low, with that much forward lean I wouldn't touch them.

Keep an eye on the corner, it looks a smidge high, but it will cut

I re-quoted this because I checked my angles again this morning and somehow went from 15* to 19* on side dresser. Must have forgotten to recheck after torquing the dresser bolt down. Top was dead on @12*

 

[Duane(Pa)]

kfd, thanks for posting the instructions. Some of them I hadn’t seen before. There’s nobody in my neck of the woods that can answer questions, so it is nice to have a little info for reference.

 

[Hedgerow]

I use a 30 degree top plate for just about everything.

I cut a lot of hedge with it. Works fine unless you get too greedy.

 

[psuiewalsh]

Anyone used these wheels on a silvey square grinder. It lists the round grinder numbers.https://www.forestershop.com/forester-saw-chain-grinding-wheel-fsgw8316.html

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Should work fine and the price is right.

 

[psuiewalsh]

I ordered a couple. Let you know in a week or so.

 

[psuiewalsh]

I have ground a chain but the wheels are more like the one I use for rakers m316. Its a higher porousness than either of my old wheels tan or blue. It removes metal fine but will probably have less defined corner

 

[Deets066]

Thoughts?

 

[Skeans1]

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Thoughts?

Going air blast?


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[Deets066]

Going air blast?


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It’s mostly air with coolant mist

 

[srcarr52]

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Thoughts?

Stop rocking chains and you won’t need it!

 

[chipper1]

Stop rocking chains and you won’t need it!

That's funny, I was thinking move the saw before you start grinding lol.
I've considered some large magnets on the back sides of mine to catch fines.

 

[chipper1]

It’s mostly air with coolant mist

Are the wheels compatible?
Would you build a catch basin under the whole head.
Cooler seems better to me.