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Great video! Thanks for sharing that.

Of course, you need to be sort of a chain geek already to really understand it!


Oregon used to recommend the 10° 'down angle' (you drop the handle of your file down when filing, even though you are filing 'upwards') only of full-chisel chains. A few years ago, they started recommending it on more chains, including semi-chisel chains. An Oregon rep told me that it absolutely makes a difference in objective testing. *** But, Oregon only recommends using that file holder at 90° ***. That's a difference from those Vallorbe videos.

STIHL has always recommended a 90° (0° down angle) file position. I do not know if this is due to a difference in the profile of their cutters, or a technical disagreement, or . . . ? Whatever you choose - stick with it: wastes a lot of metal going back and forth.

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The 10 degree angle is a good thing.
 

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Doug fir is a fun animal isn’t it? How many other types of wood can you take a 5’ 200’ stem and take the hinge up to almost nothing? If they want to see a fun hardwood they should come play with some alder.


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Alder is mush.
Splitting *s-word it is.

It was designed to knock west coasters on the head..
 

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The guys back east *b-word about ash for the same reason.
Prone to split or just break..
It's almost all dead here.
Farmer 1/2 mile from here in the river bottom sold a hundred cord a yr, still running 70-80cc saws cutting in his 70's took a hit, wasn't long after he passed. He told me it slowed him down a lot a week before, great guy, laughed at my 50cc saws :).
The 10 degree angle is a good thing.
Do you use it on all chains.
 

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I use this on my square falling chains as well, it’s just simple easy works for everything I do from saw chains to harvester chains.
Here’s a video of the harvester
Then here’s some larger fir on a line


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I've seen the fir video before.
Nice machine, I need one for firewood, wonder how it would do on red oaks lol.
Gotta have the right tool for the job, guess I'm the "tool" for the oaks :confused:.
 

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I use this on my square falling chains as well, it’s just simple easy works for everything I do from saw chains to harvester chains.
Here’s a video of the harvester
Then here’s some larger fir on a line


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Nice work ,so my saw is not the only one that gets the chain plugged full of fir chips lol
 

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Doug fir is a fun animal isn’t it? How many other types of wood can you take a 5’ 200’ stem and take the hinge up to almost nothing? If they want to see a fun hardwood they should come play with some alder.


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Alders no fun unless has at least a 20 degree lean.
 

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It's almost all dead here.
Farmer 1/2 mile from here in the river bottom sold a hundred cord a yr, still running 70-80cc saws cutting in his 70's took a hit, wasn't long after he passed. He told me it slowed him down a lot a week before, great guy, laughed at my 50cc saws :).

Do you use it on all chains.
Just full chisel cutters.
 

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Try cottonwood some time.

It’s a hardwood, but not hard..

But fiber and swampy *s-word it is!

We have it, it plugs like red cedar does fir is a different animal.


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I've seen the fir video before.
Nice machine, I need one for firewood, wonder how it would do on red oaks lol.
Gotta have the right tool for the job, guess I'm the "tool" for the oaks :confused:.

They do just fine in oak, the best heads for that hardwood was a Fabtek.


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And normally up the face of a nasty hill too, always fun watching one chair out for no reason.


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Since i started the triangle cut with alder have not blown the back out of one yet ,bore cutting i have though.falling them sideways to the lean to swing them some does not seem to chair them either. ,At least so far they haven't.
 

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Great video! Thanks for sharing that.

Of course, you need to be sort of a chain geek already to really understand it!


Oregon used to recommend the 10° 'down angle' (you drop the handle of your file down when filing, even though you are filing 'upwards') only on full-chisel chains. A few years ago, they started recommending it on more chains, including semi-chisel chains. An Oregon rep told me that it absolutely makes a difference in objective testing. *** But, Oregon only recommends using that file holder at 90° ***. That's a difference from those Vallorbe videos.

STIHL has always recommended a 90° (0° down angle) file position. I do not know if this is due to a difference in the profile of their cutters, or a technical disagreement, or . . . ? Whatever you choose - stick with it: wastes a lot of metal going back and forth.

Philbert

Stihl used to specify 10* down for rs chain.
 

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Cottonwood here stinks like cat piss inside ,yuk

I won't burn cottonwood for that reason, along with box elder and maple. Well I'll burn maple if it has about 2 years to totally dry out. I guess I'm kind of a wood snob, oak or black locust for me. I also have a indoor wood burner so that makes a big difference.
 
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