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Semi-skip runs faster along the guide while throwing larger chips. Oregon off the reel gets faster when the gullets are round filled on an angle, taking away the standard square edge. Chips binding in the cut ears power! In my experience.View attachment 211518 37" Ash 3 years ago. Semi-skip square chisel was noticeably faster than comp ripping, and faster yet when the gullets got filed.
I remember that pic.
You running 3/8 or 404?
 

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I remember that pic.
You running 3/8 or 404?
3/8 .063 semi-skip square chisel 20190428_131152.jpg 5 foot cannon Stihl semi-skip square chisel mid spring this year. Maple. Ladder wasn't wide enough support, 661 found its voice/legs. Broke in ? From reading BobL on sharpening on another forum there is negligible difference in the kerf between the two. 10° or less leading edge may lessen side2side porpoising for smoother surface. Like sgt. Schultze " I know nothing" it's all guessing from what seemed to work last time
 

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Some wood I run 117 404 fc others I run 117 404 fs
3/8" 0.063 is next up for testing on the 37" Cannon just in from Shaun.

Testing 3/8lp on a Stihl 36ES. No ss or fs for that. Smooth is the goal to do resawn 16/4 and 12/4 thick slabs. That should be about max. 114dl is a lot on that little chassis imo.
 

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114dl is a lot on that little chassis imo.
I borrowed Mike's 50" Cannon to mill a big ol maple beastie. It had 3/8 and cut like buddah! No issues at all.
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Milled a ton with my 119dl Windsor Speedtip. I saw no issues, 3/8 .063 both stihl and lgx chains, mostly square filed full skip.
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Don't shy away from regular old 3/8 chain. It works, plain and simple.
 

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I borrowed Mike's 50" Cannon to mill a big ol maple beastie. It had 3/8 and cut like buddah! No issues at all.
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Milled a ton with my 119dl Windsor Speedtip. I saw no issues, 3/8 .063 both stihl and lgx chains, mostly square filed full skip.
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Don't shy away from regular old 3/8 chain. It works, plain and simple.
My 3/8" 36"ES is 0.050 and I'm going to run low pro or picco on it and the 36" ES WN 0.050
You missed the lp in the post
 

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I borrowed Mike's 50" Cannon to mill a big ol maple beastie. It had 3/8 and cut like buddah! No issues at all.
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Milled a ton with my 119dl Windsor Speedtip. I saw no issues, 3/8 .063 both stihl and lgx chains, mostly square filed full skip.
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Don't shy away from regular old 3/8 chain. It works, plain and simple.
Skip chain seems to match resistance @cutters to PH and work well for you. :thumbup: looks good
 

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First time poster. Used to always look at the other site but the drama queens have hijacked that one. My question is has anyone tried the new Oregon EXL chain.

Hi, for what you describe a semi-chisel is your best 'next step'. EXL/EXJ is full chisel particularly designed for soft, clean timber. Even better for your use is DuraCut (was MultiCut), the additional thicker chrome plating on DuraCut prolongs the life of the cutting edge and working corner. Effectively, extends the use between sharpens. It will ultimately do full just the same though, although it takes longer to do so. Any foreign objects (that isn't wood) will still muller the cutter though.

Now, DuraCut is available in the UK as a full chisel (and still performs well, as expected in cases such as yours...better than 'standard chain'). However, although I cant remember the part number off the top of my head, I am pretty certain that there is a semi-chisel version of DuraCut available in the States...this is the ideal solution to your requirement.

As a footnote, DuraCut will give you a similar longevity experience as tungsten carbide tipped chain but the beauty of DuraCut is it can be sharpened with the appropriate 'ordinary' chain file.

Best regards,

Hobo
 

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Here is my correspondence with Oregon Products regarding 72EXL chain sharpening:


To: Oregon Products Support <oregon.support@oregontool.com>
Subject: 72EXL chain sharpening angles

Dear Sir,

Are the chain sharpening angles for 72EXL chain the same as 72LGX when sharpening on the Oregon 520-120 grinder? If not what are the correct angles for the 72EXL chain?

Should the 10 degree down angle be used when sharpening the 72EXL chain?

The 520-120 manual should be updated on page 12 "Grinding Angles Chart" to include the 72EXL chain.

Thank you,


Their response:
From:glenn.lovell@oregontool.com

Tue, Nov 28 at 2:09 PM

Hello, Thank you for your interest in the Oregon® brand.

The 72EXL uses the same sharpening angles as the 72LGX. The 10 degrees down angle is not a must have, it is a nice to have. When down angle is properly applied during sharpening it will get you 3 – 5% faster and more efficient cutting. Most chain users, other than professional loggers, will never notice the gain in cutting performance.

Grinder head tilt angle: 55 degrees.
Chain vise rotation angler: 25 degrees
Down Angle: 10 degrees (if you want to)


Kind Regards,

Glenn Lovell
Sr. Technical Services Technician
Forestry, Lawn, and Garden Division (FLAG)
 

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I've never really messed with the "down angle" adjustment on my grinder and have always left it at 0°. Might play around on a chain or two and see if I can tell a difference. Stupid question though...which way should it be adjusted "into or away from the machine" depending on the left or right cutters?
 

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I've never really messed with the "down angle" adjustment on my grinder and have always left it at 0°. Might play around on a chain or two and see if I can tell a difference. Stupid question though...which way should it be adjusted "into or away from the machine" depending on the left or right cutters?
look at this.
 

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I tried it. Did not notice a significant difference in my cutting. Oregon reps say it absolutely does under controlled, test conditions.

That video with ‘right away’ was never helpful for me, because it’s not clear if it’s the cutters, or the big knob on the bottom of the vise, that gets moved ‘away’ (it’s the knob).

I try to envision a file held in a 10° ‘down’ position, and how I would have to tilt the chain, to bring that file level. (Not sure if that helps either).

Philbert
 
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Well crap. I bought LGX instead of EXL today cuz it looks hookier. Didn’t realize the possibility of metallurgy being different. Oh well.
LGX is the better stuff anyway!

Don't get me wrong, EXL seems good as little as I have used it so far - but LGX is "the chitt".

I can't use 94DL, but I did not want to pass up on affordably priced old stock Dolmar 099 (rebranded Oregon LPX?!) which is my favorite 3/8" chain to run.

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