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Knots for braided nylon rope

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  1. RI Chevy

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    What kind of rope do you use? And what thickness?
     
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    Bowlines are awesome. All depends on use. A bend, like the Zeppelin, Carrick, Alpine Butterfly, sheet, etc are for joining two ropes together.

    A bowline is for making a loop in a single rope. It is essentially the same thing as a sheet bend, only with a single rope instead of two.
     
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    Does the Carrick untie as easily too?
     
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    It sure does, and I think it works better than the Zeppelin if the two ropes are different sizes.
     
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    Here's a little video of me tying it.

     
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    Hehehe
     
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    Ever tie a bowline by making a slip knot, passing a bite throug the loop and then pulling the ends of the slip knot pulling the bite through?

    Can be tied backwards!!!!!!!

    Did it 50+ years ago for a Boy Scout knot tying relay.

    Scoutmaster stopped and scratched his head.

    Lol
     
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    Yes! You can attach a bowline to something incredibly quickly by setting it up like that!

    I'll see if I can find a video.
     
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    Thanks.
    I don't tie much anymore because the weight involved it's chain sets and big straps.
     
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    Climbing Arborist used to have the computer automated knot tying examples. Good stuff. Sherrill might have the basic knots you need.
     
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    What thickness rope are you pulling with a truck? I just snapped a 1 inch Tenex sling with a truck.
     
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    I think it was 9/16 rope. Not very big, but had high break resistance. lol
    I asked the rope to do more than it was designed to do. I am looking at some 1" or larger triple braided nylon boat rope to replace it.
     
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    Why boat rope? Use Arborist rope.
     
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    The price is right. Lol
    What arborist rope do you suggest?
     
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    I snapped some 1" before with the truck. It was safety line I later found out. Rated for under 10K. Front diff locker is hard on stuff. I was trying to upright a cut off uproot blown over. Now I stick to the that core-less static line 3/4 double braid in red. Similar to Amsteel Blue, tough stuff!
     
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    Thanks for the help and the link.
    A friend of mine who works for Tuffleberger gave me the strongest rope they made for treework. That was about 10 years ago. Lol supposedly had about 20K tensile strength.
    I think I need the 1" stuff. About 38K.
     
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    Try a bowline on a bight breaks a little easier after heavy tension, just remember a knot robs up to 70% of strength, a spliced eye retains 70+
     
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    Ok. Cool. Thanks.
     
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    That is good advice and wisdom to live by. Buy your line as a hank instead of a straight shot. You will thank my later after all the "pulling" is done. A thimble added will save the eye loop from tear out and overstress during heavy loads. A sweat shirt at mid-line keeps breakoffs tame.
     
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