Inside the MS462C

[RI Chevy]

Lol. True dat. Dan and Mike. [emoji106]

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[stihlman441]

I know you're gonna want one Andrew.

Let me know when you have them sorted out

 

[ABarrick]

I'm crazy excited for this thing to show up in the US but it honestly confuses me why Stihl is calling this the MS462. I would think they'd can the 441, call this a 442 and keep the 461 in the lineup as the old school lower tech saw. Seems more logical to me.

 

[blsnelling]

Is the 462 in the video stock?!

Yes. It's the same saw as I've been posting pics of.

Just a little correction. This saw doesn't actually belong to Stephen. The owner is a friend of his and Stephen is porting it.

 

[hseII]

I'm crazy excited for this thing to show up in the US but it honestly confuses me why Stihl is calling this the MS462. I would think they'd can the 441, call this a 442 and keep the 461 in the lineup as the old school lower tech saw. Seems more logical to me.

Considering this is replaces a 70cc Saw, I couldn't agree more.

Between The Rescue Saw, & how popular the 461 has been as a felling saw, it surprises me they are doing away with the 461.

 

[MustangMike]

I heard this is supposed to replace both the 441 & 461, simplify the line up.

 

[MustangMike]

Pollution controls unfortunately are needed. I can remember seeing and smelling rivers here in Tennessee that were so polluted that they were dark brown and devoid of life. I also remember the Tennessee Valley around Knoxville being thick with smog. Today those same rivers are beautiful, and even with many more people, the smog is gone.

Without wading into a political discussion I'll just say that without any controls, the world as we know it would be *frenched.

Finding that fine line between preserving the future for my grandkids and over regulation is something we should strive for rather than using these things as political battering rams.

Remember......this is coming from a guy that hops up engines......

Randy, I agree with you 100%, unfortunately the Government often gets it wrong. We had terrible acid rain North of here, and some of the best fishing lakes in the Adirondack Mtns were totally devoid of fish. Thankfully, it has changed.

But what they did to cars in the 80, and rating saws based on size and not performance, are just a few examples of how they go off the tracks. They just often lack common sense.

 

[blsnelling]

Here's the port timing, stock with gasket.

Exhaust - 98
Transfers - 117/120
Intake - 81

This shot gives you a good idea of how compact this saw is. MS462C vs 395XP

 

[MustangMike]

Sounds like good #s, I'm surprised the Exhaust is not higher on an emissions saw (in the 70s)

 

[CR888]

I would cut with this saw in stock form for a few weeks and kinda get the feel for what the engineers have achieved. Then pull it apart and stare at it for a while. Don't forget folks new model time brings other joys too....MS461's will be discounted new & all the lightly used PSP saws will flood the used market as they upgrade. If one keeps an eye out you will see some ripper 461 deals.

 

[Dub11]

I would cut with this saw in stock form for a few weeks and kinda get the feel for what the engineers have achieved. Then pull it apart and stare at it for a while. Don't forget folks new model time brings other joys too....MS461's will be discounted new & all the lightly used PSP saws will flood the used market as they upgrade. If one keeps an eye out you will see some ripper 461 deals.

Hush now thats what I've been counting on since I saw the 462 announcement

 

[blsnelling]

I would cut with this saw in stock form for a few weeks and kinda get the feel for what the engineers have achieved. Then pull it apart and stare at it for a while. Don't forget folks new model time brings other joys too....MS461's will be discounted new & all the lightly used PSP saws will flood the used market as they upgrade. If one keeps an eye out you will see some ripper 461 deals.

Basically, we've been staring at this saw for several years with the 261 and 461. I'm ready to grind!

 

[XP_Slinger]

Here's the port timing, stock with gasket.

Exhaust - 98
Transfers - 117/120
Intake - 81

This shot gives you a good idea of how compact this saw is. MS462C vs 395XP

Those are some pretty nice numbers in a stock saw.

 

[weedkilla]

I would cut with this saw in stock form for a few weeks and kinda get the feel for what the engineers have achieved. Then pull it apart and stare at it for a while. Don't forget folks new model time brings other joys too....MS461's will be discounted new & all the lightly used PSP saws will flood the used market as they upgrade. If one keeps an eye out you will see some ripper 461 deals.

I'll probably sell my 562 (not quite a lightly used psp saw, but anyway).

A 70cc saw for a couple of hundred grams extra is a deal in my mind.

 

[ferris]

I heard this is supposed to replace both the 441 & 461, simplify the line up.

That's true

 

[StephK87]

Hello to everyone, Steph from germany here

I'm glad to share my experiences with the new 462 on this site. Honestly... in the last months, since my sign up on OPE, i was more an interested reader than an active user.
I think OPE is agreat platfrom with lot's of knowledge and a big bunch of cool people from what i see and read so far.
Now i hope i can put something useful in it with my thougts and experiences.

Unfortunately, my english is not that good, but i will do my best.

Oh, and thanks @blsnelling for posting the pic's and numbers already.

The 462 i have for now belongs to a good friend who wants it ported. I will do all mods on the saw progressively with vid's and pic's to show us the gains per step, starting with a muffler mod next week.
If you guys have questions on the saw, please ask! I try to answer them the best i can. Iam also open for all kinds of ideas in terms of modding, i never stop learning.

Here some more impressions of it. My test wood is a cosistent log of german beech, three months on the ground. Pretty dense and hard.

The saw is fully stock so far, out of the box chain, 7pin. Imho the saw feels really torquie, i pushed quite heavy on the last cut. Oh, and Stihl is going crazy on the stock muffler, 121db is not quiet, loudest stock saw i've ever used!

For fun a small encounter against my old ported 560xpg and something big...

More videos to come, i have some left on my gopro. I want to put a stock 562 against it.
To this point the 462 looks like a winner for me in its class! Light and strong

We will see

Greetings Steph

 

[weedkilla]

Thanks @StephK87 these threads take lots of time and they are very appreciated. Your English is great, and much better than what German I can remember from school!

About the only number I'm still curious about is the squish. (Thanks for showing gasket thickness already.)

 

[Mastermind]

Exhaust - 98
Transfers - 117/120
Intake - 81

Looks like the designers are paying attention. Those numbers are really good.

 

[Nitehawk55]

If I had a stock saw that cut that well thru a large beech I'd leave it alone....but that's just my thinking .

 

[ABarrick]

Anybody get a compression reading yet?